Re: [CR]Re: Derny

Example: Framebuilders:Mario Confente

Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:26:41 -0700
From: "Mitch Harris" <>
To: "Fred Rednor" <>
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Derny
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cc: Classicrendezvous <>

On Nov 10, 2007 12:55 PM, Fred Rednor <> wrote:
> > <> wrote:
> > > No, Dernys do not have a roller -
> >
> > Perhaps not typically (?) but I've ridden a lot of miles
> > behind different dernys that were fitted with rollers in
> > back.
> Perhaps the bone of contention here is that there are the
> orginal dernies, made in France by the Derny brothers, and
> there are "generic dernies" made by others. It's like Kleenex
> and kleenex, or Hoover and hoover. (Or bespoke vs. Bespoke,
> for that matter.) Perhaps none of this will make sense, unless
> you are both a native English speaker and a long time member of
> the CR list. (If you're confused, I can explain off-list.)

Perhaps the difference is an aftermarket change. Another difference is that my experience is out-of-timeline (late 80s/90s) with small fleets of otherwise identical Dernys in Europe where some of them had the roller and some not. The roller looked like something that could have been added. Hilary's information would suggest that Dernys were not supplied stock with rollers.

Mitch Harris
Little Rock Canyon, Utah