RE: [CR]Paramount P-13 vs P-15

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From: "Scott L. Minneman" <>
To: "'David G. White'" <>, "'Classic Rendezvous'" <>
Subject: RE: [CR]Paramount P-13 vs P-15
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 21:27:47 -0800
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In 1972 & 1973, Campagnolo brakes were still an extra-cost option on the P-13 (a $50 option on a $350 bike, no less). Weinmann center-pulls (Schwinn-branded) were standard. In 1976 & 1977, Weinmann Carrera sidepulls were standard -- Campagnolo brakes were *still* an extra-cost option.

Campy brakes finally became standard equipment on the P-13 in 1978.

Scott Minneman San Francisco, CA - USA

-----Original Message----- From: [] On Behalf Of David G. White Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 8:02 PM To: Classic Rendezvous Subject: [CR]Paramount P-13 vs P-15

I'm researching the differences between the P-13 and P-15 circa 1972. The Waterford website has a Paramount history that includes the following:

Paramounts grew to five models:

* P-10 - Deluxe Paramount - designed for non-competition road riding and included front and rear eyelets, 27 x 1 1/4" clincher tires and Weinmann center pull brakes. It usually came with Campagnolo Record components. You could order it with Campy side pulls and/or custom geometry as an option. * P-11 - Paramount Tourist - designed for upright bars and recreational rides. It was available on a special order basis only. The ladies version was designated P61. * P-12 - This was the old designator for the Paramount Racer - now becoming the P10. * P-13 - Road Racing Paramount - designed for competition, this model came with tubulars and Campy sidepulls stock. * P-14 - Track - Full Campy track components including wide flange hubs and tubular tired wheels. * P-15 - Deluxe Paramount with 15 speeds (triple front chainrings). Start with the P-10 and add a wide gear range (generally a Shimano or Huret) long cage derailleur.

My question is: circa 1972 was there any difference between the frame of the P-13 and the P-15 (tubing, geometry, etc)? Or were the differences solely with regard to the equipment with which the bike was built?



David G. White
Burlington, VT