RE: [CR]69 White Raleigh Pro... FINALLY [and 70's Romic pics]

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From: Tom Forbes <tfbike@hotmail.com>
To: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>, Mitch Harris <mitch.harris@gmail.com>, "P.C. Kohler" <kohl57@starpower.net>
Subject: RE: [CR]69 White Raleigh Pro... FINALLY [and 70's Romic pics]
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:21:46 -0600
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cc: classic <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

I am looking for pictures of a '71 Pro. I am trying to match decals, etc on
   one I bought a couple of months ago. Also need help with how to install he adbadge with the VERY small rivets I recently bought, intended for these ba dges. Thanks. Tom Forbes Houston, finally cold Texas.> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 09:59:21 -0800> From: j errymoos@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [CR]69 White Raleigh Pro... FINALLY [a nd 70's Romic pics]> To: mitch.harris@gmail.com; kohl57@starpower.net> CC: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> > Haven't measured the BB height on either my 1969 nor my 1974 Pro, but I was surprised to find that my 1969 Pro was f itted with 172.5 cranks, even though it is only a 21" frame. So maybe the h igh BB was in part because of the longer stock cranks.> > Regards,> > Jerry
   Moos> Big Spring, TX> > > Mitch Harris <mitch.harris@gmail.com> wrote:> My
   70/71 Raleigh Pro also sits fairly high (with 700 tubulars) I've> noticed.
   It doesn't have wheels in it right now so I don't have a> measurement but it's a noticeably higher BB than my 70s Italian and> French bikes. Mine is the mink/champaign/fastback stay/campagnolo> brake version that immediately
   followed the white Pro like Rich's and> I'd assumed that the high BB of th e fastback stay Pros was part of> Raleigh's effort to make them "racier" an d more "current" than bikes> like the International. So it's interesting to
   see that the> preceeding--and I'd assumed more traditional--white Pro shar es the> highish BB.> > BTW, my Pro with high BB rides descends and flicks b eautifully despite> the high BB. The thing I'm not crazy about is the feeli ng with my Pro> that the front end is tight and italianish while the rear e nd is> rangey and feels like it takes a while to catch up with a turn.> Doe sn't feel as balanced as either a rangey Gitane nor a tight Italian> bike f rom around the same time. Very different ride to me than an> International from around the same time. This was true for me whether> I put the wheel in
   the front or back of the drops. When you get some> turny riding in on your
   Pro, Rich, I'd be interested in your> impression of the ride. Also interes ted in Emily's impression since I> think her Raleigh is the same model as m ine (?). BTW, my Pro is the> 23.5".> > Great build, Rich. I wonder if they switched to cable clips as a way> to make it seem more racey and continenta l, that perhaps in 1970> brazed on cable guides seemed too associated with English touring> bikes to the Raleigh product managers?> > --Mitch Harris> Little Rock Canyon, UT> > On Dec 7, 2007 7:54 PM, P.C. Kohler wrote:> > Ric h, she looks really.. well white! Just beautiful. So completely unlike> > a ny quality Raleigh lightweight before or since. But what's the story with>
> the bottom bracket height? It looks so high. What's the measurement? I do n't> > recall the later Raleigh Pros having so much bb height.> >> > Peter Kohler> > Washington DC USA> >> > _________________________________________ ______> > Classicrendezvous mailing list> > Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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