The reason for starting to wrap tape at the bottom/end of the bar and
working up toward the stem is that the exposed edges of each wrap point down so that there is less tendency for them to curl up from your hands gripping them. To put in another way, when wrapped from the stem, the exposed tape edges tend to get pushed up and curled by your hands--especially where the bar slopes down.
Bob Schenker Oakland, CA USA
On May 15, 2007, at 8:06 PM, classicrendezvous-request@bikelist.org
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> 1. Merckx bike
> 2. French Freewheel Body (Brad Luecke)
> 3. BVVW Meeting Minutes May 2007 in New York City (Michael Schmidt)
> 4. Re: French Freewheel Body (henox)
> 5. Have I been doing it wrong all these years? (Mark Fulton)
> 6. Re: Have I been doing it wrong all these years? (galen
> pewtherer)
> 7. Re: Italvega (Super Speciale early model, now on Ebay)
> 8. More sorting, another ebay outing (gear@grego)
> 9. Re: Have I been doing it wrong all these years? (dddd)
> 10. RE: Re: Major announcement from NORTH San Diego COUNTY
> (CyclArt Shop)
> 11. Re: Have I been doing it wrong all these years? (Chuck Schmidt)
> 12. Re: Have I been doing it wrong all these years? (gabriel l
> romeu)
> 13. Re: On Zeus chainsets, french threaded (John Thompson)
> 14. RE: Italvega (Mark Ritz)
> 15. Re: Have I been doing it wrong all these years? (ternst)
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 18:00:07 -0700 (PDT)
> From: pauljadot@bellsouth.net
> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Merckx bike
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> =09
>
> This is my bike that I got from Eddy Merckx. It sports the logo of
> Karel Mintjes, the name and owner of a furniture factory close to
> where I grew up in Belgium. Karel's brother, Frans raced with Eddy.
> I use tow clips on this bike but put the original straps on for the
> photo. Nothing is changed. It is a 1988 model. Merckx fit the
> bike for me when he was in the States and it fits me like a glove.
> I did business with the Mintjens family here.
> Paul.
> Chapel Hill, NC
> USA
>
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> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 20:07:44 -0500
> From: "Brad Luecke" <brluecke@gmail.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]French Freewheel Body
> Message-ID:
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> I was going thru a bunch of my old bike parts and found a real odd
> ball. A
> five speed Metric (French Threaded) Suntour freewheel body. No
> cogs, just
> the body. I believe I used it on a Gitane tandem I owned in the early
> 70's. I have no idea why it has no cogs, except I put a Phil Wood
> 48 spoke
> rear hub on the bike because we broke so many spokes. I may have
> used the
> cogs on a new English FW body.
>
> ANYWAY, my question, is this thing as rare a hen's teeth and
> desired by the
> Francophiles of the world or is it a piece of antiquated junk that
> nobody
> wants?
>
> I also found a five speed Suntour Perfect FW 14-34T that I would
> bet is also
> from the tandem. I assume it falls in the antiquated junk category.
>
> All thoughts welcome
>
> Brad Luecke
> Columbia MO
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 21:45:23 -0400
> From: Michael Schmidt <mdschmidt@patmedia.net>
> To: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]BVVW Meeting Minutes May 2007 in New York City
> Message-ID: <C26FDA73.4602%mdschmidt@patmedia.net>
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> As announced, the BVVW members convened at the home of Michael
> Lebron for
> the family meeting for May 2007. Attending was the usual suspects;
> Pauley
> and Rita "Dollface" Lee, Nino Hellman, Johnny "the torch" Coast, Eddie
> "Prof" Albert, Kenny Bensinger, Milano Matty Bowne, Michael "tubes"
> Lebron,
> Stevie "the hip" Klein and one or two other guys I am too tired to
> remember.
> Forgive me Godfather.
>
> With the OD on the left coast trying to fix the June Gloom, the family
> members that could attend, took the Ouija Board out to extend the
> weather in
> San Diego til 2009. Prior to the meeting, our host Michael cracked
> open a
> few bottles of the grape; Italian Chianti Classico, of course. With
> our
> glasses full, the evening's agenda unfolded.
> First up was small talk about T-Town, the status of the BVVW
> Jerseys and the
> 5 boro bike tour.
>
> Matt Bowne then took the Mike and gave a great presentation on the
> Framebuilders show in San Diego complete with memorable stories and
> pictures
> of the bikes and builders. Matty then had to bail and pack for his
> trip to
> the old country; Milano, Italia.
>
> Right after Matt, we refilled our glasses and Mike Schmidt gave a
> presentation on his trip to Bordeaux France to pick up a Rene Herse
> bicycle
> at the March family home. Mike even brought the Herse for show &
> tell.
> Something we could not do when using The Hartford's boardroom;
> bring our
> bikes upstairs. Pictures of this trip are now on Wool Jersey.
>
> http://www.wooljersey.com/
>
> By the time Mike wound down his presentation, it was time to eat. The
> official food of the BVVW was ordered in; Pizza
>
> The next meeting will probably be in June around the time of Cirque.
> Once again, our thanks to Michael Lebron for being a most gracious
> host.
>
> Mike Schmidt
> Il Guardiano de BVVW
> Stirling, NJ
> USA
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 18:47:04 -0700
> From: "henox" <henox@icycle.net>
> To: "Brad Luecke" <brluecke@gmail.com>,
> <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]French Freewheel Body
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> Subject: [CR]French Freewheel Body
>
> Brad asks:
>
>
>> I was going thru a bunch of my old bike parts and found a real odd
>> ball.
> A
>> five speed Metric (French Threaded) Suntour freewheel body. No
>> cogs, just
>> the body. I believe I used it on a Gitane tandem I owned in the
>> early
>> 70's. I have no idea why it has no cogs, except I put a Phil Wood 48
> spoke
>> rear hub on the bike because we broke so many spokes. I may have
>> used the
>> cogs on a new English FW body.
>
> When I was a distributor for SunTour (in a previous life), I sold both
> metric and tandem freewheel bodies without the cogs.
>
>> ANYWAY, my question, is this thing as rare a hen's teeth and
>> desired by
> the
>> Francophiles of the world or is it a piece of antiquated junk that
>> nobody
>> wants?
>
> Probably by some Francophiles, but probably not all that many, as
> the metric
> threaded are not all that rare.
>
> Hugh Enox
> La Honda, California
> chilly all day today
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 18:57:15 -0700
> From: Mark Fulton <markfulton5@mac.com>
> To: classicrendezvous list <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Have I been doing it wrong all these years?
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> Since 1948 i've been wrapping my handlebars from the stem out. I
> simply wrap out and around, down and back, pop in the cap and I'm
> done. No extra tape up top. Have I been doing it wrong all these
> years? Have people secretly been making fun of me for this? Is there
> some compelling reason to wrap from cap to stem? Just to keep this on
> topic, I only ask because I'm about to retape my 1950 Locomotief Tour
> de France and the Cinelli cork ribbon that I just bought includes the
> extra plastic finishing tape.
>
> Mark Fulton
> Redwood City, California
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 19:16:44 -0700
> From: "galen pewtherer" <dolface@gmail.com>
> To: "Mark Fulton" <markfulton5@mac.com>
> Cc: classicrendezvous list <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Have I been doing it wrong all these years?
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> Don't know if that's wrong or not, but I've always done it the other
> way because that way the laps (I think that's what they're called)
> point "down bar", so when I slide my hands down the bars they don't
> curl up the edges of the tape, (and when sprinting you're pulling the
> bars towards yourself) and when riding in the wet, water doesn't
> trickle under the tape.
>
> Imagine this is a horizontal cross-section of the bar on the flats to
> the left of the stem as seen from the saddle:
>
> \\\\\ tape \\\\\
> ---this is the top of the bar---
> ---this is the bottom of the bar---
> ///// tape ////
>
> Galen "it works for me" Pewtherer
> San Fancisco, CA USA
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/15/07, Mark Fulton <markfulton5@mac.com> wrote:
>> Since 1948 i've been wrapping my handlebars from the stem out. I
>> simply wrap out and around, down and back, pop in the cap and I'm
>> done. No extra tape up top. Have I been doing it wrong all these
>> years? Have people secretly been making fun of me for this? Is there
>> some compelling reason to wrap from cap to stem? Just to keep this on
>> topic, I only ask because I'm about to retape my 1950 Locomotief Tour
>> de France and the Cinelli cork ribbon that I just bought includes the
>> extra plastic finishing tape.
>>
>> Mark Fulton
>> Redwood City, California
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>
>
> --
> -galen
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 22:18:11 EDT
> From: FujiFish1@aol.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Cc: jack_gabus@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [CR]Italvega (Super Speciale early model, now on Ebay)
> Message-ID: <d03.fa7a508.337bc3e3@aol.com>
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>
> Hi Jack,
>
> There have been a few Italvega threads lately, so I added a bit more
> specificity to the subject line, for ease of use :)
>
> The frame you are looking at is being offered by our trusted
> listmember Otis
> (Jon) Williams. He and I have conferred on the subject, and Mr.
> Ritz has
> already set the record straight, off list. According to Mark R.
> the earliest S.S.
> models had eyelets, which came as complete news to me! I think I
> have photos
> saved of a similar frame, but I had imagined that it was probably
> named
> something like a "Super Turismo" model ... but nope ... Mark R.
> say's it's of the
> first group, year (approx. 1971), etc., of Super Speciales to be
> sold. So,
> this is a seemingly very uncommon, or dare I say even ... "rare" bird.
>
> A perfect addition to the thread about quality "top of the line" for a
> specific company, that still falls into the "2nd tier" category
> overall. The big
> ugly seam under the bottom bracket shell certainly wouldn't come
> out of a shop
> like Masi, etc., yet my S.S. from the following year (sans eyelets,
> but still
> with the b.b. weld seam) rode REALLY great, despite those fine finish
> shortcomings.
>
> *** Again, we owe much thanks to Mark Ritz for the model and year
> info given
> above! ***
>
> Ciao,
> Mark Agree
> Southfield MI USA
> ~ ~ ~
>
>
>
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 14:02:30 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jack Gabus <jack_gabus@yahoo.com>
> To: CR <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Italvega
>
> Gang:
>
> Ok Mr. Ritz and Agree.
>
> http://ebay.com/
> Campagnolo_W0Q
> QitemZ230130161210QQihZ013QQcategoryZ98084QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmd
> ZViewIte
> m
>
> EB # 230130161210
>
> Is this a Super Special or not. I say no because of
> the Bottom Bracket and the eyelets, very nice chrome
> though. Mr. Ritz you can get out of the Dog House on
> this.(just Joshin)
>
> This is for all the Italvega freeks. For some unGodly
> reason I am a member.
>
> JG
>
> Jack (Giacomo) GabusLaguna Beach, CA jack@shermangabus.com
> http://www.wooljersey.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at http://
> http://www.aol.com.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 20:20:50 -0600
> From: "gear@grego" <gear@xmission.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]More sorting, another ebay outing
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> Message: 8
>
> Hi all,
>
> Today's sorting turned up a Regina inch pitch chain that may be useful
> to some of y'all. Also a NR or SR non drive 172.5 crankarm.
> Both can be found under ebay I.D. eencore .
> As usual, shipping discounts etc to CR listers. Just say the password!
>
> Greg Overton
> if I haven't used it yet, I aint gonna, in
> Salt Lake City, Utah
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 18:22:50 -0800
> From: "dddd" <dddd@pacbell.net>
> To: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Have I been doing it wrong all these years?
> Message-ID: <009501c79761$1aa48540$4001a8c0@compaq>
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>
> Well, yeah, if you are using anything but plastic tape, the tape's
> edges get
> rolled up from the hands sliding outward and foreward along the top
> portion
> of the bars.
>
> That's why they include finishing tape, but that doesn't really
> complete the
> job, imo.
> To secure the upper end of the tape I always apply some contact
> cement to
> the sticky side of the last inch and a half of tape that then gets
> wrapped
> with the finishing tape, and also add a spot of the cement to the
> last half
> inch of the sticky side of the finishing tape itself, lest it
> unravel as it
> often does.
> A well-considered, sharply angled cut to the end of the bar tape
> will allow
> the finishing tape to smoothly cover the upper end of the bar tape.
>
> I've seen bikes taped "backwards" with Benotto plastic tape that
> seems to
> stay put without curling, with the tape stuffed into the handlebar
> end.
> Come to think of it, Benotto tape never included any logo/finishing
> tape,
> but then neither did/does cotton tape, which tends to curl readily
> when
> taped backwards.
>
> Most modern shops and riders/racers favor electrical tape over logo'd
> finishing tape, with infinite length used for several trips around
> the bars.
> It is reliable but unravels and exudes sticky residue over time.
>
> David Snyder
> Auburn, CA, usa
>
> Mark Fulton wrote:
>
>
>> Since 1948 i've been wrapping my handlebars from the stem out. I
>> simply
>> wrap out and around, down and back, pop in the cap and I'm done.
>> No extra
>> tape up top. Have I been doing it wrong all these years? Have people
>> secretly been making fun of me for this? Is there some compelling
>> reason
>> to wrap from cap to stem? Just to keep this on topic, I only ask
>> because
>> I'm about to retape my 1950 Locomotief Tour de France and the
>> Cinelli
>> cork ribbon that I just bought includes the extra plastic
>> finishing tape.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 19:21:03 -0700
> From: "CyclArt Shop" <shop@cyclart.com>
> To: "Tom Sanders" <tsan7759142@sbcglobal.net>,
> <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: RE: [CR]Re: Major announcement from NORTH San Diego COUNTY
> Message-ID: <NIBBIIPFEMAAOKOABEOLOEGMFDAA.shop@cyclart.com>
> In-Reply-To: <001f01c79595$41944410$1b6f4d44@ts>
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> Message: 10
>
> Tom & CR Listers,
> Just in case anyone has been holding off on a paint project due to
> fear of
> long turnaround times, CyclArt is currently down to a 3-4 week
> turnaround on
> most jobs. New chrome plating or repairs will take longer of course
> and
> occasionally we get hung up on a particular job due to various
> difficulties.
> The reason for the faster turn time? We stay focused on our work,
> customer
> emails & phone calls. That's why you often don't see us on the
> discussion
> groups/lists or at some of the shows or social gatherings. We
> support the CR
> List with our paid banner ad. Over the past 30+ years we have been
> in this
> business, we have always offered full and accurate restoration,
> including
> replica decals & parts. We're here every weekday from 10am-6pm PST
> ready
> help get your vintage bike back to its former glory or add your
> personal
> touch to your favorite two wheeled vehicle. Hard work? Heck yeah,
> but its
> our passion!
>
> CyclArt
> 2590 Pioneer Ave Suite A
> Vista, CA 92081 USA
> shop@cyclart.com
> http://www.cyclart.com
> http://ebay.com/
> tel: 760-727-6948
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org]On Behalf Of Tom
> Sanders
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 11:31 AM
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Re: Major announcement from San Diego
>
>
> Brian...What will this mean for turnaround time on painting bikes and
> building them for folks...are multi- year waiting lists going to
> shrink?
> Perhaps paint jobs will come back sooner? Folks don't realize it,
> but you
> are actually one of the quicker painters of the really major guys.
> I've
> never had you take more than a few months and I've got bikes in
> paint right
> now that have been gone for well over a year into the black hole of a
> painter's shop.
> Tom Sander
> Landing, Mi USA
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 19:36:24 -0700
> From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
> To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Have I been doing it wrong all these years?
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>
> On May 15, 2007, at 7:22 PM, David Snyder wrote:
>
>> I've seen bikes taped "backwards" with Benotto plastic tape that
>> seems to stay put without curling, with the tape stuffed into the
>> handlebar end. Come to think of it, Benotto tape never included any
>> logo/finishing tape, but then neither did/does cotton tape, which
>> tends to curl readily when taped backwards.
>
>
> Benotto Cello tape (hecho en mexico) came with bar end plugs
> (actually bar end caps that go over the end of the bar, not inside
> of) and per their printed instructions you were supposed to start by
> wrapping over the bar end caps and when you got to the top you were
> supposed to melt the end of the tape with a match and stick it to
> itself. No logo/finishing tape.
>
> Of course, you are free to use their product any way you wish.
>
> Chuck Schmidt
> South Pasadena, CA USA
> http://www.velo-retro.com (reprints, t-shirts & timelines)
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 22:41:32 -0400
> From: gabriel l romeu <romeug@comcast.net>
> To: Mark Fulton <markfulton5@mac.com>
> Cc: classicrendezvous list <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Have I been doing it wrong all these years?
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>
> Some of us young'uns from '69 on do it that way as well. I have
> enjoyed
>
> listening to every reason not to, but those 'enlightened' ones don't
> realize how it pleases me to be a contrarian. They are obviously
> gripping the bars far to hard for the primary expressed
> consequence. I
> know that the tape on my on topic Bianchi Pista has just over 3500
> miles
>
> on it and i can't justify a grunge change.
> I also toss that little strippy bit that is to encircle the brake
> clamp
> as a good figure 8 under the hood will cover it admirably.
>
>
> I hate tape on the top of the bars.
>
> plugs are a perfect solution to swallowing up the end of the tape.
> Outside of that, i have not figured out how one justifies their
> weight.
>
> You can test how good znc even you are by comparing the lengths of the
> tucks on each side of the bars.
>
> barcons are a drag cause they don't leave enough room for the tuck.
>
> there are so few people that do it this method here, it lends an
> individuality to my builds. If it makes others laugh, consider
> yourself
>
> doing a public service.
>
> Mark Fulton wrote:
>> Since 1948 i've been wrapping my handlebars from the stem out. I
>> simply
>
>> wrap out and around, down and back, pop in the cap and I'm done. No
>> extra tape up top. Have I been doing it wrong all these years? Have
>> people secretly been making fun of me for this? Is there some
>> compellin
> g
>> reason to wrap from cap to stem? Just to keep this on topic, I
>> only ask
>
>> because I'm about to retape my 1950 Locomotief Tour de France and the
>> Cinelli cork ribbon that I just bought includes the extra plastic
>> finishing tape.
>
>
> --
> gabriel l romeu
> the wind thought that it had the best of me, but it was only bluster
> with no substance on my circuitous route in chesterfield nj usa
> ± http://studiofurniture.com Ø http://journalphoto.org ±
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 21:42:05 -0500
> From: John Thompson <johndthompson@gmail.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]On Zeus chainsets, french threaded
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> References: <20070511.164716.3483.3082144@webmail12.lax.untd.com>
> <854636.32752.qm@web82203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> Kurt Sperry wrote:
>
>> My recollection is the exact opposite, that Zeus was first and
>> foremost a
>> builder of shameless, almost exact copies of existing Campagnolo
>> products,
>> frequently right down to parts interchangability.
>
> But do keep in mind that Zeus started in the bicycle business in 1923,
> many years before Campagnolo. And parts interchangeability isn't
> such a
> bad thing, is it?
>
> --
> John Thompson (john@os2.dhs.org)
> Appleton WI USA
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 19:53:47 -0700
> From: "Mark Ritz" <ritzmon@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: RE: [CR]Italvega
> Message-ID: <000801c79765$6d06c600$0300a8c0@D4Q1RPB1>
> In-Reply-To: <MONKEYFOODfdMwgdl1D00002bfc@monkeyfood.nt.phred.org>
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>
>
> Jack Gabus challenged: <Ok Mr. Ritz and Agree.
>
> EB # 230130161210
>
> Is this a Super Special or not. I say no because of the Bottom
> Bracket and
> the eyelets, very nice chrome though. Mr. Ritz you can get out of
> the Dog
> House on this.(just Joshin)
>
> This is for all the Italvega freeks. For some unGodly reason I am a
> member.
>> end
>
> I respond:
> Yep, it's a Super Speciale and a first year model. Besides the
> eyelets,
> look at the fork crown - it's a Cinelli crown that has not been
> filed and
> shaped to match the blade, so there's an overhang on the crown. I
> remember
> having this exact model (gee, this is even my size!) when I worked
> for Lawee
> in 1972.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark (feelin' old) Ritz
> Arcata, CA
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 20:08:40 -0700
> From: "ternst" <ternst1@cox.net>
> To: "classicrendezvous list" <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>,
> "Mark Fulton" <markfulton5@mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Have I been doing it wrong all these years?
> Message-ID: <005a01c79767$80bf12e0$0300a8c0@D8XCLL51>
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>
> About a year ago I and a few others had a comprehensive treatise on
> the list
> re: taping .
> Get it out of the archive, go now and do likewise.
> Ted Ernst
> Palos Verdes Estates
> CA USA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Fulton" <markfulton5@mac.com>
> To: "classicrendezvous list" <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 6:57 PM
> Subject: [CR]Have I been doing it wrong all these years?
>
>
>> Since 1948 i've been wrapping my handlebars from the stem out. I
>> simply
>> wrap out and around, down and back, pop in the cap and I'm done.
>> No extra
>> tape up top. Have I been doing it wrong all these years? Have people
>> secretly been making fun of me for this? Is there some compelling
>> reason
>> to wrap from cap to stem? Just to keep this on topic, I only ask
>> because
>> I'm about to retape my 1950 Locomotief Tour de France and the
>> Cinelli
>> cork ribbon that I just bought includes the extra plastic
>> finishing tape.
>>
>> Mark Fulton
>> Redwood City, California
>> _______________________________________________
>
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>
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