[CR]Very interesting 50's Cinelli and time lines

(Example: History:Norris Lockley)

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Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 07:15:05 -0700
To: Ken Wallace <kwallace@cableone.net>, CR <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
From: "Dr. Paul J.Wilson" <paul@wilsondesigns.net>
Subject: [CR]Very interesting 50's Cinelli and time lines

Hi Ken, Steven & CR,

I've come to realize that lots of this Cinelli history cannot always be traced to an exact time line. Nonetheless, some history can be traced, and I am not knowledgeable enough to know which is which. And so, the Cinelli we talk about here has no pointed head lugs, yet alleges that it is a 50's bike. About what time line did pointed head lugs occur.? Were non-pointed head lugs available to be used on 50's frames?

Also about what time line did drilling of fork stiffeners and lugs begin?

Finally, the fork of this Cinelli is not sloping, what are time lines concerning Cinelli fork designs?

Comments from all appreciated.

Paul J. Wilson Cell (408) 395-2020, Temecula, California>>(951) 587-3632, San Jose, California 95124>>(408) 377-1710,

At 5:54 AM -0700 5-21-07, Ken Wallace wrote:
>It's nearly identical to my silver 1964 Cinelli, except mine does
>not have the colored Altenburger components and has Sheffield pedals.
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>Ken Wallace, Proprietor
>Bisbee Bicycle Brothel
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>On May 20, 2007, at 9:35 PM, The Maaslands wrote:
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>>For those of you who have become fixated with Cinelli and believe that
>>you have understood something about serial numbers or other build
>>characteristics that can assure a particular build date or period, I
>>believe this bike will blow all of your preconceptions away:
>>http://ebay.com/<blah>
>>_W0QQitemZ260120590590
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>>On this Cinelli, which I believe to be a variant of the 'B' it becomes
>>absolutely certain that Cinelli did not build 'catalog' stock bikes, but
>>rather was amenable to build everything to order. So you might as well
>>stop trying to use today's logic to second guess the year of production
>>of a given frame by serial number, or even build specifics. With less
>>than 1000 frames being built in any given year, Cinelli would have been
>>able to build every bike differently.
>>
>>By the way, I am presently the high bidder on this bike but expect to
>>quickly be outbid.
>>
>>Steven Maasland
>>Moorestown, NJ
>>USA
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