Re: [CR]Re: Is this an old Cinelli road frame or what?

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From: "Chuck Schmidt" <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Is this an old Cinelli road frame or what?
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 20:37:30 -0700
To: CR RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>


On May 4, 2007, at 8:06 PM, oroboyz@aol.com wrote:
> So let me get this straight. Someone took a mid 1960s bike and
> retro fitted
> a set of early to mid 1950s dropouts in it (ten year older dropouts)?
> That is a huge strech... possible, but pretty a big stretch, in my
> opinion.
>
> Dale Brown
> Greensboro, North Carolina

The thing I find most troublesome with this Cinelli, and it hasn't even been mentioned yet, is that the dropouts and eyelets have not been filled flat along their perimeter!

http://www.cyclesdeoro.com/For-sale/Cinelli_SC_A/img_0649.jpg http://www.cyclesdeoro.com/For-sale/Cinelli_SC_A/img_0643.jpg

I have an October 1960 Cinelli SC that's the same, in all its details, as this frame except for the nasty joining of the dropouts to the stays and the lack of the flat filing of the edges of the dropouts. Yes, my frame has the same dropouts as this frame.

I don't know why it was necessary or when it was done... but none the less, I believe, Acording To My Opinion (ATMO), that the dropouts were replaced at some point and done so in a very crude way. Of course, nothing that couldn't be put as right as rain by a good framebuilder for hardly any coin.

Chuck Schmidt
South Pasadena, CA
http://www.velo-retro.com (reprints, t-shirts & timelines)