Re: [CR]1981 Cinelli Laser?

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Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 23:08:47 +0000 (GMT)
From: <gholl@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]1981 Cinelli Laser?
In-reply-to: <B497ABBC-F85C-44C6-9456-2448DC2C3680@earthlink.net>
To: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
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cc: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

Dear Mr. Schmidt: I meant no personal insult to you in the use of the term "nonsense" as far as the use of bondo on the Cinelli Laser; however, in the absence of proof that bondo was used in the manufacture of the Cinelli Laser the characterization stands. If you can provide such proof, I will retract my remark forthwith. I repeat that no bondo was used on #007. The photos I have already provided.
George Hollenberg, MD
CT,USA


----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Schmidt"
Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 06:35:00 -0000
Subject: Re: [CR]1981 Cinelli Laser?
To: "Classic Rendezvous"


> Dear Mr. Hollenberg, Medical Doctor:
> Happy to hear that your experiences run counter to mine. Yes,
> you
> are absolutely correct in your guess that the Modolo Kronos
> brakes
> were designed for Time Trial use. And it's also heartening to
> hear
> that your particular Cinelli Laser has no bondo or cracks as the
>
> Lasers that I observed years ago did.
>
> However to characterize one man's first hand observations of the
>
> existence of bondo in the manufacture of the Cinelli Laser as
> "nonsense" is ill-mannered and does nothing to further the
> discussion
> of Cinelli Lasers or even Modolo Kronos brakes for that matter.
>
> "Tis with our judgments as our watches:
> None go just alike, yet each believes his own."
> --Alexander Pope (1688-1744)
>
> Chuck Schmidt, GD (Graphic Designer)
> CA, USA
>
>
> On May 7, 2007, at 3:06 PM, George Hollenberg, MD wrote:
>
> > Dear Mr. Schmidt:
> > The Modolo Kronos brakes on my Laser work very well. So do the
> ones
> > on my Colnago Cx.
> > I have purchased both well used and unused Modolo Kronos
> brakes.
> > The last set I bought, from Europe, was used by the former
> owner
> > for many years. I may have extra sets, both used and unused,
> if
> > you are interested. Like all high-tech parts they must be
> properly
> > installed and maintained. I have original intruction manuals
> as well.
> > Please know that the Laser and Kronos brakes were most likely
> > designed for TT use.
> > There is no bondo and there are no cracks on Cinelli Laser #007.
> > George Hollenberg, MD
> > CT, USA
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Chuck Schmidt
> > Date: Monday, May 7, 2007 4:22 pm
> > Subject: Re: [CR]1981 Cinelli Laser?
> > To: CR RENDEZVOUS
> >
> >>
> >> On May 7, 2007, at 12:52 PM, George Hollenberg wrote:
> >>
> >>> As in all areas of our hobby there's a lot of dis-information
> >> about
> >>> the Laser, too, i.e., that the tube shapes were done with
> >> bondo--
> >>> (nonsense), and that the Kronos brakes wouldn't stop the
> bike--
> >> (not
> >>> true either), etc.
> >>
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, quite a bit of the fairing of the tubes into each
> >>
> >> other at the head tube was accomplished with lots of bondo.
> >> This is
> >> very apparent to the eye when you see all the cracks in the
> >> surface
> >> around the back of the headtube fairing as the bondo has shrunk
> >> over
> >> the years. The few Laser's I saw had these cracks developing
> >> when
> >> the bikes were still fairly new (four or five years old?). I
> >> loved
> >> the look, these extreme design/aesthetic exercises at which
> >> Italians
> >> excel, but the cracking of the bondo was one of the reasons I
> >> was
> >> happy not to own one.
> >>
> >> Oh, and I rode with friends that tried Modolo Kronos on their
> >> racing
> >> bikes and eventually took them off their bikes after a few
> >> months
> >> because of the braking was only marginal at best. I'd be
> >> willing to
> >> wager that you'll never find a "well used" set of Modolo Kronos
> >> brakes for auction on eBay... they were all show and no go (stop?).
> >>
> >> "Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?"
> >> -- Groucho Marx
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >> Chuck Schmidt
> >> South Pasadena, CA
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
> >
> > George Hollenberg MD
> > CT, USA
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
>
> _______________________________________________
>

George Hollenberg MD
CT, USA