Re: [CR]re: why no dynohubs? II

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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:37:10 -0500
To: Gilbert Anderson <>
From: "Mark Stonich" <>
Subject: Re: [CR]re: why no dynohubs? II
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I have no trouble believing that you found yours to be effective. The effectiveness of a drum brake has a lot to do with setting them up correctly. Most people don't mess with them so I assume that variations of fit and assembly can make the difference between a good and bad one. The best and worst drum brakes I ever used were the Arai tandem drum. One provided almost imperceptible retardation. Another, on Bill McReady's original Santana triple prototype, hauled 500+ pounds to a stop quite nicely. Bill claimed he rarely used the front brake.

I assumed Pete Eagan of VeloVision knows how to optimize them, but maybe not. I'll send him instructions. Back when I was riding motorcycle Observed Trials in the '70s, brakes were snuff tin sized drums and were often submerged in one section and then sorely tested on a tricky downhill in the next. Those of us who knew how to get the most out of them got a lot fewer bruises.

Are/Were your drums 90 or 70mm? Steel shell/drum or alloy shell w/cast iron drum? Old or modern?

At 6/26/2007 05:59 PM -0400, Gilbert Anderson wrote:
>Hello folks,
>On Sturmey drum brakes; I I have little personal experience with the
>Dynohub version but the standard Drum Brake will toss you over the
>bars easily. I was so impressed I bought a pair (drum brake
>hubs) front and rear for an old Raleigh Gran Sport. No
>maintenance, clean rims, weather proof., strong large flanges, cool.
>The standard supplied brake levers for the hubs suck however, they
>are nylon, are flexible and have limited travel and as far as I'm
>concerned, unsafe and non functional. We have sold hundred of the
>old Pashley Roadsters with these brakes front and rear coupled with
>Mountain Bike levers with zero complaints. My personal bike had
>Campagnolo record road levers and again you can easily lock up both
>wheels but they have better modularity than linear pull
>brakes. Linear pull a and disk brakes take less hand pressure to
>lock up the wheel than an SA drum brake but you have to wonder if
>being able to easily lock up a wheel is a good thing.
>I would be surprised if the Dynohub brake performs any different
>from the non Dynohub version.

Shouldn't, assuming same shoe size and leverage. I'd love to have the generator drum in the front and the XRD5 5 speed drum in the rear.

><<Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:13:35 -0500
>From: Mark Stonich <>
>Subject: Re: [CR]re: why no dynohubs?
>At 6/22/2007 05:00 PM -0400, John Betmanis wrote:
>>The S-A Dynohub is no longer made,
>According to a long term report in VeloVision #25 they work quite
>well, but the drum brake leaves a bit to be desired.
>Mark Stonich;
> BikeSmith Design & Fabrication>>
>Yours in Cycling,
>Gilbert Anderson
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