Re: [CR]Re: Makes that can't get no respect.. GIOS


Example: Framebuilders:Norman Taylor

Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:22:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Raymond Dobbins <raydobbins2003@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Makes that can't get no respect.. GIOS
To: oroboyz@aol.com, Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <8C987C3D3235351-998-1308@WEBMAIL-RA14.sysops.aol.com>


I checked and there are no serial numbers anywhere that I can see. The bb has two slots, "Gios" cast or engraved on it, and the size stamped (58 in this case).

This is "supposed" to be a 79-81 Super Record. Does anybody have a similar one with a serial number?

As far as the quality of this frame...would but that all fakes were built as nice.

Ray Dobbins Miami FL USA

oroboyz@aol.com wrote:

Ray wrote: << Off to check for serial numbers on my Gios, >>

You notice the boys do not make mention of serial numbers in what to look for in counterfeits... Plus the counterfeits are of "low quality" so should be easy to spot, right?

Chuck mentioned he heard it was "the old man" versus his sons, but I think Alfredo IS the founder and wasn't that old...

Dale Brown cycles de ORO, Inc. 1410 Mill Street Greensboro, North Carolina 27408 USA 336.274.5959 http://www.cyclesdeoro.com http://www.classicrendezvous.com

-----Original Message----- From: Raymond Dobbins To: DoubleB ; Classic Rendezvous Sent: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 1:31 pm Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Makes that can't get no respect.. GIOS

The Gios brothers, Alfredo and Aldo, addressed the issue of counterfeits in one of their brochures. Although not dated, they speak about the Compact model, so that would place this brochure no earlier than...when did the Compact model come out?
>From Mark Bulgier's site:

http://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/gios-misc/4.jpg

Ray Dobbins Off to check for serial numbers on my Gios, in Miami FL USA

DoubleB wrote: "So, I guess my question is,did anyone actually ever see a counterfeit Gios Torino?"

I think I have one, it's a white GIOS Torino Professional with blue panels and GT pantographed on the seatpost and big chainring, but it has no serial number on the bottom bracket shell or anywhere else on the frame, so I have always believed it to be a fake, a good fake mind you, but a fake nevertheless.

Brian Booth
Toronto, Ontario, Canada