Re: [CR]When is a restoration not a restoration?

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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 19:46:00 +0000 (GMT)
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Subject: Re: [CR]When is a restoration not a restoration?
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Dear Mr. Gillies: There really are no grey areas despite your attempts to create them. I'll wait for you to find that unpainted 1974 Masi frame before proceeding with any more discussion on this topic. But I'll be waiting comfortably seated. Good luck! George Hollenberg MD Westport, CT, USA

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From: "Donald Gillies"
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 03:26:00 -0000
Subject: Re: [CR]When is a restoration not a restoration?

> George says that original means painted while the bike is production.
> MASI California was in operation for nearly 30 years making steel
> bicycles. So if Brian discovered an unpainted 1974 frame and MASI
> released an "anniversary edition" of the Gran Criterium in 2009, then
> it would _not_ be restored because the model was then in
> production ??
> So if I got my Gios frame repainted while Gios was producing its
> commemorative edition, it would not be restored ?!?!? I'll have to
> remember that !!
> Jerry Moos says that original means "painted before the original bill
> of sale". All i need to do, then, is to have Brian Baylis
> discover an
> unsold MASI frame with no paint, and his 2009 paint job would be
> "original". Waycool. Let's go looking for that frame! I can
> have it
> painted in a Schwinn Orange Krate Kolor (brian is a very
> flexible and
> sympathetic painter!)
> I'm trying to point out that it's a very grey area about
> defining what
> it means for a bike to be "original" or even "pristine". It' far
> easier to define "original" as "only touched by the original artists",
> than the grey and muddy areas that you are wandering into ...
> - Don Gillies
> San Diego, CA
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George Hollenberg MD