Re: [CR]Re: Cinelli bar STAR LOGO?


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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:02:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Cinelli bar STAR LOGO?
To: Fred Rednor <fred_rednor@yahoo.com>, Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <91615.66114.qm@web82214.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


This got me curious enough to go searching through my stash. I found a couple each of Giros and Campiones from this era.

It turns out all of us were right. Both the Giro and Campione have "Stars", but they are much different "Stars". The Giro has a 5 point Star, while the Campione has an 8 point one. The latter could also be interpreted as a flower or a leaf.

I know I've also seen at least one Cinelli bar from this era with a third logo, I think including a crescent moon plus other objects. Maybe this was the Criterium model.. Anyone else seen this one?

Regards,

Jerry Moos Big Spring, TX

Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> wrote: This is odd, as you say the Giro D'Italia model had the Star logo, while Tom says the Campione did. I know I have seen different logos on the two models, although maybe this wasn't consistent.

Regards,

Jerry Moos Big Spring, TX

Fred Rednor wrote: This won't help entirely, but I'll tell you what I'm using on my Peugeot, with a Fiamme "Montreal" stem...

Cinelli 26.4mm diameter bars; no cable grooves whatsoever Left side: Star logo, and the inscription "Giro D'Iatalia" Right Side: Cinelli inscription, the first letter is the "flying C" style. Below the inscription is the style/size (i.e. 64-40)

I just realized that I must have purchased these bars after 1984, although I don't know how long they were on display in
the shop...
Fred


--- Tom Dalton wrote:


> Because the Star logo bars are easier to find, I've been

\r?\n> looking for any excuse to use them on my "period correct"

\r?\n> 1980s bikes. Toward that end, I've kept my eyes open for the

\r?\n> earliest date-able any photo showing star logo bars in use.

\r?\n> The earliest I have seen is from the 1985 or 1986 season.

\r?\n> The star logo bars may have been available earlier, and I'd

\r?\n> be happy to know that they were, but I don't recall seeing

\r?\n> them until the later half of the 80's.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Tom Dalton

\r?\n> Bethlehem, PA USA

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Jerome & Elizabeth Moos wrote:

\r?\n> It would seem the "Cinelli" on both sides didn't last

\r?\n> long then, as I'm pretty sure the Star logo, still no

\r?\n> grooves, still 26.4, was already around in the early 80's,

\r?\n> probably before the 1983 CR cutoff. If the Star was

\r?\n> Champione, then the Giro bars were something different.

\r?\n> Anyone know what logo they used on the Giro's offhand?

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Regards,

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Jerry Moos

\r?\n> Big Spring, TX

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Tom Dalton wrote:

\r?\n> The star logo on Del Mondos came after the

\r?\n> Cinelli-both-sides version. All the distasteful

\r?\n> single-groove, double-groove, and 26.0 mm stuff had the star,

\r?\n> so it was definitely later.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> As has been discussed previously on this list, the classic

\r?\n> crest-logo stamping was replaced with the "flying C" logo at

\r?\n> the time that Columbus bought Cinelli (c. 1979). The

\r?\n> earliest of the "flying C" Del Mondos had "Cinelli" logos on

\r?\n> both sides. On one side, below the big Cinelli logo, was

\r?\n> writing that read "Champione del Mondo," and below the

\r?\n> Cinelli logo on the other side was the model and size (such

\r?\n> as 66-42). With the Cinelli-both-sides version, some had the

\r?\n> size on the left and the "Champione del Mondo" on the right,

\r?\n> and some were opposite. I suspect that this may not have

\r?\n> been random, because once the star logo came out, the size

\r?\n> was consistently on one side (drive side?). Thus, the

\r?\n> Cinelli-both-sides bars that had the size where it

\r?\n> consisently appears on the star logo version I take to be

\r?\n> newer, and where the size appear on the opposite side, I take

\r?\n> that bar to be the earliest of the flying-C bars.

\r?\n>

\r?\n>

\r?\n> The earliest star logo Del Mondos I recall seeing were

\r?\n> around 1985 or 1986.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Tom Dalton

\r?\n> Bethlehem, PA USA

\r?\n>

\r?\n>

\r?\n>

\r?\n> is the

\r?\n> "intermediate" logo and I think for only one model, the Giro

\r?\n> D'Italia perhaps.

\r?\n> Other models has different "intermediate" logos. These came

\r?\n> between the

\r?\n> older classic Cinelli crest and the newer ones with just

\r?\n> "Cinelli". I

\r?\n> think these intermediate logos were used in the early 80's

\r?\n> and perhaps

\r?\n> very late 70's.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Regards,

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Jerry Moos

\r?\n> Big Spring, TX

\r?\n>

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