Re: [CR]Re: Cloisonne goodness from Cinelli (er, correction)

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Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 16:39:25 -0700
From: "Tam Pham" <terminaut@gmail.com>
To: "Chuck Schmidt" <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Cloisonne goodness from Cinelli (er, correction)
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On 7/7/07, Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net > wrote:
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> Another correction...
> < http://blog.honeyee.com/eric/archives/images/cinellibluestembadge1_2-
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> Here's a photo of an actual cloisonne Cinelli badge.

Chuck,

The stem badge in that photo is identical to the stem badge (which was bought from Steven Maasland) on the far right in my photo. Its enameling process seems to be the same as the bigger 57mm head badge to the left of it but unfortunately the lighting in my photo doesn't show the glassy looks properly.

Anyways, I think in the true sense of cloisonne these badges do not comply. A key factor seems to be that the somewhat specialized act of creating partitions (ie. cloisons) is integral to the process of creating cloisonne pieces. The Cinelli badges are merely *cast* pieces filled with frit/enamel.

It's all semantics really and as long as we know what we're talking about it's all good by me.

Tam Pham
Huntington Beach, CA - USA