Re: [CR]'57 Herse 650 Rando....


Example: Framebuilders

Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 18:36:14 -0400
From: James Swan <jswan@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]'57 Herse 650 Rando....
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To: dave@pelletizer.com
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cc: 'Classic Rendevous' <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

Hi David,

I've been drifting away from it but I was doing a bit of dealing in machine tools for quite a few years. Recently, if I bought a lathe that had some kind of fatal flaw or a major component missing, it was almost a relief because I could part it out with a clear conscience. It is a win-win because I could buy it much cheaper and sell it for much more.

Jamie Swan Centerport Cycles Inc. 245 Main St. Northport, N.Y., U.S.A. 11768 631-262-0909

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On Jul 15, 2007, at 5:57 PM, David Toppin wrote:
> It is a shame, but many things bring much more in parts than
> complete. I've
> been noticing it in South Bend Lathes for a while. I couldn't
> bring myself
> to part out a valuable bike
>
>
> David Toppin
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Kurt
> Sperry
> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 1:37 PM
> To: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org; Bill Talbot
> Subject: Re: [CR]'57 Herse 650 Rando....
>
> I count the obvious take offs plus frame and fork adding up to
> $6,280 or so
> right now with many bits still missing and many of the pieces
> likely to
> still be bidded up. How much would the bike have brought whole?
> Would
> anyone really pay $10,000 for a Herse?
>
> It is a shame to see that bike irreversably ruined as an original
> piece, but
> blame the buyers at least as much as the seller. If people were
> willing to
> pay anything close for a complete original bike to what the
> vultures are for
> the pieces, these bikes would probably not be broken up.
>
> I suspect that once the price point gets much North of $6,000 or so
> for a
> single item, there are just too few willing buyers to bid it up to
> real
> value.
>
> Kurt Sperry
> Bellingham WA
> USA
>
>
> On 7/15/07, Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> It is a shame, but economically, he will probably do better. The
>> seller is obviously quite knowledgeable, as he has a lot of nice
>> French stuff at reasonably starting bids, but the Herse frames, Herse
>> bits, and Maxicar hubs and wheels are starting at the high prices one
> would expect.
>>
>> Of course one could buy the frame and bits and reassemble the bike,
>> but this would cost a lot, which of course exactly what the seller
> intends.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jerry Moos
>> Big Spring, TX
>>
>> Bill Talbot <bulldogsrule@graffiti.net> wrote:
>> CRers,
>>
>> Is it just me or do others here hate to see a bike like this being
>> parted o ut on ebay? Such a damn shame that it wasn't offered up as a
>> whole bike to preser ve a wonderful old bike.(item # 120142190996).
>> And you won't have to look f ar to find all the rest of it.....
>>
>> Bill Talbot feeling sad in ,
>> New Hartford, CT USA