Re: [CR]Colnago Frame Dating, Version III

(Example: Framebuilders:Bernard Carré)

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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:51:46 -0400
To: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>, Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
From: "DB" <bordenbunch@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Colnago Frame Dating, Version III


Hi all, I am lucky enough to have what I am almost certain is a 1972 Super. It differs from Version III below in that it has 3 holes in each fork tang, not 2, clover cutouts on all 3 lugs, and a small circle cutout on the bottom part of the seat tube lug, below the top tube. It is a 58cm, and I will email pics/measurements to anyone interested. Thanks! -Dan Borden in Brookline, MA

At 3:28 PM -0700 9/10/07, Chuck Schmidt wrote:
>Thanks to all of you that have responded (four so far).
>
>Need input on the following:
>-- Last year for club cutouts in all three lugs (changed to single
>club cutout in lower head lug)
>-- Plus anything else that's questionable... (thanks to those of you
>that have responded)
>
>
>=================================
>Colnago Frame Dating, Version III
>=================================
>
>1969 and earlier?
>1969 -- Playing card decal graphics
>1969 -- Fork crown (sand cast) with two holes in each side
>1969 -- Fork tangs wide, no cutouts
>1969 -- Club cutouts in all three lugs
>1969 -- Bottom bracket shell with drilled holes in circular pattern
>----
>1970 -- Fork crown (investment cast semi-sloping) with two holes in each side
>1970 -- Club cutouts in all three lugs but club in lower head lug is
>now larger
>1970 -- Bottom bracket shell with club cutout
>----
>1971 -- Fork tangs narrow, no cutouts
>----
>1972 -- Club/COLNAGO decal on head tube/seat tube (seat tube Worlds
>bands) and COLNAGO on down tube
>1972 -- Fork crown with clubs in top and two holes in each side
>1972 -- Fork tangs with two holes
>----
>1973 -- Wreath seat tube decal with two Worlds bands
>1973 -- Fork crown with clubs on top but no holes in each side
>1973 -- Water bottle braze-ons on downtube
>----
>1974 -- Fork tangs with club cutouts
>1974 -- Club cutout in lower head lug only
>1974 -- Shifter braze-ons on down tube
>----
>1975 -- Vertical COLNAGO seat tube decal with diagonal worlds stripes
>----
>1976 -- Fork crown with COLNAGO added to clubs on top
>1976 -- Short Campagnolo dropouts
>----
>1977 -- Top tube cable guide braze-ons
>----
>1979 -- Fork crown for recessed brake bolt with shallow triangles
>cut into back
>1979 -- Brake bridge for recessed brake bolt
>----
>1980 -- Short COLNAGO drop-outs and COLNAGO fork ends
>1980 -- Fluted seat stay caps engraved COLNAGO and straight seat
>stays, no longer biconical
>1980 -- Brake bridge with cast square boss for recessed brake bolt
>----
>1981 -- Chain stay bridge is small spool shape, no longer tube
>----
>1982 -- Chain stays stamped COLNAGO on sides
>1982 -- Cable routing on underside of bottom bracket
>----
>1983 -- Aerodynamic fork crown
>
>NOTE:
>Year dates are approximate; changes might have occurred the end of
>one year or the beginning of the next for example. Paint schemes,
>panels, decals and chrome varied according to how importers spec'd
>their frames, so this all varied considerable. Dates and details
>based on the Classic Rendezvous archives, the Wool Jersey Gallery,
>and Colnago and Bikcology catalogs.
>
>ALL CORRECTIONS WELCOMED AND ENCOURAGED!
>
>
>Chuck Schmidt
>South Pasadena, CA USA
>www.velo-retro.com (reprints, t-shirts & timelines)