Re: [CR]Caveat Emptor-Ebay seller of Rene Herse Tandem

(Example: Production Builders)

Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 16:56:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Jay Van De Velde" <>
Subject: Re: [CR]Caveat Emptor-Ebay seller of Rene Herse Tandem
In-Reply-To: <00b601c7edb0$373fe5f0$6401a8c0@fred>

OK, I'll ask the question that many must have, with all due respect. "You want to drink out of those?!"

Jay Van De Velde Seal Beach,CA

Lewis Ting <> wrote: Fellow CR members,

I recently had an experience with the same seller of the Rene Herse tandem bike on eBay which may or may not have any bearing on your decision to bid.

I recently bid and won a Simplex bottle-holder and two bottles on eBay, listing # 150153499535, see<blah>

As you can see, the listing clearly states that the item "Works great". However, when it arrived, I quickly discovered that both bottles were defective, one bottle has a pin hole and the other has a crack. I promptly informed the seller, and this is his reply: "Hi Sorry I assumed the person that won the auction would be using this for display only. they are more or less to be admired and not used. I regret that these are sold as is. thanks, david"

I then communicated with him that his response was not satisfactory, and that he should have disclosed the defect in his listing. I also told him that I am a member of this list and I am seriously thinking of sharing my experience with others.

David wrote back this time and said he would refund the money but that I will have to send the item back to him first. I wrote back to say that I do not want to be out-of-pocket for the shipping cost and he should refund my payment first. Long story short, we are at an impasse. His last email to me, in essence, says that if I go public on this that I can forget about the refund. I decided to go public.

While the shipping charge of a cage and two bottles are relatively small, potential buyers of a tandem bike should think twice before bidding. Buyers would be well-advised to look at the bicycle first or be in a position to pick it up in person.

I hope the above helps.

Lewis Ting
Glencoe, Illinois