Re: [CR] Brit bikes orig finish?

(Example: Component Manufacturers:Campagnolo)

Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:44:30 -0500
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
From: "John Betmanis" <johnb@oxford.net>
Subject: Re: [CR] Brit bikes orig finish?
In-Reply-To: <c2d.27e5d214.34c10974@aol.com>


At 02:41 PM 17/01/2008 EST, Crumpy6204@aol.com wrote:
>I have just won? a 12/1952 built.1953 model Claud Butler Avantcoureur 22"
>frame (I REALLY wanted a 21") complete bike. LOOKS? all orig. but frame paint is
> in rough condition. I Paid GBP225.00 YES about $450.00 at to days rate.
>NOW the clincher! shipping was GBP160.60 Global Priority 3 days, about $320.00!
>( Well at least the Brit post office is making money) I did shop around for
>shipping and GBP150.00 no guarantee delivery time was about the cheapest. If
>you are interested Ebay#300188664988 NOW the question I put to youse! It is
>a Simplex 3speed. 27"Dunlops. B17saddle, GB bars,stem and brakes, Williams
>C1000 single chainset.Pedals?.Bluebels mudguards, EVEN a Swiss Lucifer dynamo.
>IT does have the real neat Bi Lam lugs.The seller thought it was a real
>lugged frame NOT, in my mind the better welded and bilam design, DO I RESTORE IT?
> or bring it to LeCirque as is? Lets hear some feedback on this. Dougs
>Claud BiLam FRAME alone, went for twice what I paid for this compete bike
>INCLUDING shipping! Cheers John Crump OldmaybegotadealthistimeBrit, Parker, Co USA

Great bike, John!

I got my 1951 New Allrounder frame for $100 plus $145 shipping and it requires refinishing, no question about it, with heavy rust on the chrome ends. If I were to build it up with all original parts like yours has, I'd be shelling out a lot more than you paid. It's interesting that your AC appears to be the same original colour that I can find left over on parts of my New Allrounder, a flamboyant blueish green. (It's been repainted at least twice, silver, then flat black.) While your AC would be beauiful if completely, seems it would look pretty good if just cleaned up. No offence, but I'd lose the dynamo lighting system. I had a light almost identical to that on my Hercules, but would never have put something that heavy on my Claud.

John Betmanis
Woodstock, Ontario
Canada