RE: [CR]Re: thread on change in styles

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From: "Kenneth Freeman" <ken4bikes@att.net>
To: "'Morgan Fletcher'" <morgan@hahaha.org>, "'John Wood'" <braxton72@gmail.com>
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Subject: RE: [CR]Re: thread on change in styles
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 06:26:05 -0500
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Morgan,

The Josh Putnam page does an excellent job of presenting the facts about trail, but it does not correlate the value of trail with the ease of no-handed riding, or weight-driven steering.

You were responding to John Wood's comment on frame alignment: were you saying that trail is a property of frame alignment? If so, I don't think that is correct. Trail is a property of frame design, and has nothing to do with any lateral bias that may exist in a misaligned frame or fork, or which may be due to a worn headset.

Please explain the connection you see here.

Ken Freeman

-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Morgan Fletcher Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 4:41 PM To: John Wood Cc: Emily O'Brien; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Re: thread on change in styles

John Wood wrote:
> For what it's worth (not much), my opinion has always been that ease
> or difficulty of hands free riding is mostly due to frame alignment.
> I have had both new and old bikes that were either hard or easy to
> ride no hands, and I have not been able to correlate it to a specific geometry trait.

Consider fork trail; http://www.phred.org/~josh/bike/trail.html

Morgan Fletcher
Oakland, CA