Re: [CR] Good grief, "shills" now?? What happened to "fake hoods"?

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From: "Rodney Handsfield" <rhandsfield@cox.net>
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Subject: Re: [CR] Good grief, "shills" now?? What happened to "fake hoods"?
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:49:24 -0600
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It sounds as if you too have had the regretable experience of trying to deal with one "K.D." We dare not mention his full name so as not to invite retaliation, harrassment or worse. As you say, when bidding or doing any kind of business with the insane, criminal or simply wierd; "consider the source" and "let the buyer beware".----- Original Message ----- From: <gpvb1@comcast.net> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [CR] Good grief, "shills" now?? What happened to "fake hoods"?


> LOL!
>
> Folks, all I can say is please consider the source! ;-)
>
> If you want the truth, please e-mail me off-list.
>
> Greg Parker
> Ann Arbor, Michigan
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:04:04 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Dale B. Phelps" <losgatos_dale@yahoo.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Good grief, "shills" now?? What happened to "fake hoods"?
>
>
> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:52:57 EST
> From: LouDeeter@aol.com
> Regarding shill bidding, I suppose I could fit the loose definition of
> that
> on occasion. I see something that is going cheap and while I don't really
> need it, I'll bid to see if I can snatch a deal. Am I unnecessarily
> running up
> the bid? Probably? I do win a few items like that so it isn't like I'm
> doing it solely to help the seller. I do it at the Cirque auction for
> charity
> too. Doesn't bother me a bit if I end up with the item, even when it is
> something that I say to myself, "I can't believe I bought that". Plus, if
> I can
> force the competition to spend more of their precious dollars on items I
> don't
> want, then they won't have as much money to spend on items that I really
> want. That's part of the game, right?
> To which Dale added:
>
> Yeah, I'd guess even gpvb would agree "that" is "ok", based on their own
> past
> bidding practices. A couple years ago I noticed that every time I'd post a
> differing view to that particular CR member's ravings on CR, gpvb would
> magically place bids on any (every!) auction I was bidding on on squeeBay.
> Pretty amusing if you ask me, but who cares really? Life is too short to
> let
> putz whiners get ya down. Wish I could say, based on the content of that
> recent
> post, that it was "good" to see that member back. But when (out of the
> blue)
> they re-appear here with a snipe about a real, or imagined offense,
> especially
> after saying they'd NEVER return, then I I just can't do that.
>
> Another case of the pot calling the kettle black, and another example of
> why
> (I think) CR people who want to bleat about their enamourment with eBay
> should
> start a user forum ON eBay. If it really IS "a game" (as Lou said) maybe
> an eBay
> user forum is a better playground for the petty, people-sniping crap.
>
> Dale Phelps
> Montagna lunga Colorado USA