FW: [CR]Was: Priority mail Delivery Confirmation. Now: Oops!

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Subject: FW: [CR]Was: Priority mail Delivery Confirmation. Now: Oops!
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 11:19:22 -0600
Thread-Topic: [CR]Was: Priority mail Delivery Confirmation. Now: Oops!
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From: "John Hurley" <JHurley@jdabrams.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>


-----Original Message----- From: John Hurley Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 10:02 AM To: 'Dale Brown' Subject: RE: [CR]Was: Priority mail Delivery Confirmation. Now: Oops!

List, Yes, the walk-in retail charge for Priority Mail Delivery Confirmation is $0.65, whereas the electronic is free. I prefer using First-Class Mail, buying and printing the label on plain paper on my pc at home, and there is an automatic charge for Delivery Confirmation at $0.18 per parcel. There is apparently no way to opt out of this service, assuming anyone would want to. But strangely, the eBay shipping cost calculator doesn't include this charge, so I bury it in my handling fee. If the item is expensive, I just buy insurance. What else would you need or want? I've heard people complain about the USPS, but I've had good luck so far.

If I'm wrong on this, especially the part about the non-optional fee which eBay ignores, perhaps some more experienced hand will offer to set me straight.

John Hurley Austin, Texas, USA

-----Original Message----- From: Dale Brown [mailto:oroboyz@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 7:23 PM To: oroboyz@aol.com; pbrueggeman@ucsd.edu; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Was: Priority mail Delivery Confirmation. Now: Oops!

oroboyz@aol.com wrote: << This is simply not true.(this guy does eBay all the time? Aye yi yi)

Delivery confirmation is an extra cost service above basic Priority mail.? I use it all the time.>>

This guy above is full of it. If you go to the actual brick and mortar Post Office, they charge for this. But on usps.com, as the original fellow said, it is free. ( I was wrong! My apologies!)

Dale Brown Greensboro, North Carolina USA

-----Original Message----- From: Dale Brown <oroboyz@aol.com> To: pbrueggeman@ucsd.edu; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 7:09 pm Subject: Re: [CR]re: Ebay scam

"...I went to usps.com and shipped an imaginary package to an imaginary friend. With Priority Mail, delivery confirmation is free. Delivery confirmation is a proof of delivery to the specific address.

This is simply not true.(this guy does eBay all the time? Aye yi yi)

Delivery confirmation is an extra cost service above basic Priority mail.? I use it all the time.

Dale Brown cycles de ORO Bike Shop 1410 Mill Street Greensboro, North Carolina 27408 USA 336-274-5959 http://cyclesdeoro.com http://www.classicrendezvous.com http://www.carolinacup.com http://www.greensborovelo.com http://www.bikegso.org http://nbda.com

-----Original Message----- From: Peter Brueggeman <pbrueggeman@ucsd.edu> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 4:33 pm Subject: [CR]re: Ebay scam

Tom, I shared your comments on eBay with a friend who sells a lot via eBay. Here's what he said. Me, I know nothing..........Peter? ?

"...I went to usps.com and shipped an imaginary package to an imaginary friend. With Priority Mail, delivery confirmation is free. Delivery confirmation is a proof of delivery to the specific address. The recipient does not have to go to the post office to pick up the item. I know that

Ebay sellers to me use this method and my mailman leaves the packages in my mailbox no problem. If something needs to be signed for, yes, then I have to go to the PO and it is a pain in the ***.? ?

Look under Priority Mail. There is delivery confirmation for $0.00 and signature confirmation for $1.75.? ?

Most ship using Priority Mail and stamps. The return receipt they ask for is indeed something that the recipient has to sign for. This is the electronic age. You ship using usps.com and print a label from your computer. Then you get free tracking and delivery confirmation. Well, not free tracking.? ?

For really valuable stuff, I'd send UPS or Fedex Ground, which provides complete tracking and delivery confirmation.? ?

The folks on the list need to be VERY specific as to what they mean by "delivery confirmation." "? ?

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Peter Brueggeman?

La Jolla California USA?

pbrueggeman(AT)ucsd.edu? ?

Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 05:21:57 -0600?

From: "Tom Hayes" <hayesbikes(AT)gmail.com>?

Subject: [CR]Ebay scam? ?

A new one on me for getting beat on selling something on Ebay: the person?

pays you with "instant payment" through Paypal, although it is paid through?

instant withdrawal from a checking account. You, as the receiver of the?

money, do not know that; you only receive a notice that you have an instant?

payment, but you do not have the source of the instant payment. (This is?

not the echeck.) Two weeks later, after you have sent the item, exchanged?

positive feedback, the buyer initiates a reversal of the payment. The bank?

cancels the payment to Paypal and Paypal charges it back to you. According?

to Paypal, the only way the "guarantee" applies is if I have delivery?

confirmation or insurance number. They will not accept the number from?

Priority Mail and a receipt showing that you sent it to the specific zip?

code. I guess the lesson learned is that all items should be sent with?

delivery confirmation, which which seems like such a shame if you consider?

the one person beating you and then you have to treat all as if they too fit?

the cheating category. On the good side, however, is that delivery?

confirmation does offer an inexpensive way of enforcing Paypal's?

"guarantee."? ?

I have filed a dispute with Ebay, though my luck with them doing much has?

never been good.? ?

Cheers.? ?

Tom Hayes?

Chagrin Falls, Ohio USA ?

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