RE: [CR]But really, about Peter Johnson frames

(Example: Framebuilders:Brian Baylis)

From: "devotion finesse" <devotion_finesse@hotmail.com>
To: James Swan <jswan@optonline.net>, mike scammon <mike@scammoncycles.com>
Subject: RE: [CR]But really, about Peter Johnson frames
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:14:49 -0500
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Japanese company Sunshine made a nice double-sided track hub that was a ver y good copy of the high flange Campy NR track hub as well. Pretty nice and not too common.

Matthew Bowne Brooklyn, New York> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:11:15 -0500> From: jswan@opton line.net> Subject: Re: [CR]But really, about Peter Johnson frames> To: mike @scammoncycles.com> CC: oroboyz@aol.com> CC: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > They are track hubs and the rear has threads on both sides. IIRC all > the internal parts; cups, cones, axle etc are stock Campy parts. I > think the standard reaction when people see them is "I didn't know > Campy made d ouble side track hubs!". Peter just smiles... And yes, > Peter is in the st ratosphere of metalworking skills.> > > Jamie Swan> Northport, N.Y.> Center port Cycles Inc.> http://www.centerportcycles.com> http://www.limws.org> ht tp://www.liatca.org> http://www.cabinfeverauctions.com> > > > On Mar 8, 200 8, at 4:00 PM, mike scammon wrote:> > > So true.> > His machine work is ama zing as well. Witnessed some "Campy" high > > flange> > hubs that he made f or Jan> > and cosmetically the only thing missing was the Campy mark. Good
> > stuff.> >> > -m> >> >> > On 3/7/08, Dale Brown <oroboyz@aol.com> wrote:
> >>> >>> >> I am concerned some folks may not know about Peter & his work.
> >>> >> This guy is one of the finest frame builders ever to practice! I > >> am sure> >> the other great guys, many who read this list,? will agree.
> >>> >> Peter is a high end machinist (that's how he really makes his > >> living) who> >> has raced, ridden and made frames since the 1970s. He is a > >> contemporary of> >> Tom Ritchey.> >>> >> His frames are arguably amon g the most refined and understated. He > >> makes> >> his lugs and a lot of other building components from scratch. His > >> frames are> >> highly ind ividualistic in a quiet and subtly radical way. They are > >> super> >> cle an, elegant and sculptural, yet they are also completely > >> functional an d> >> competent in doing what fast racing style bikes are supposed to do.>
>>> >> Like many of the top builders, (and I know this sounds a little > >> snooty)> >> you really have to know what you are looking at to fully > >> appreciate the> >> sophistication of Peter's frames. He has actually made r eatively > >> few frames,> >> one at a time for the rare friend or customer who can wait and who > >> can step> >> up to the investment Peter's time-c ost necessitate....> >>> >> Peter is a rather quiet, introspective guy, mar ried to his > >> personality> >> opposite Jan Johnson! They are a neato cou ple, fer sure.> >>> >> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/USA/Peter_Johnson.h tm> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Dale Brown> >> cycles de ORO Bike Shop> >> 1410 Mill Street> >> Greensboro, North Carolina 27408 USA> >> 336-274-5959> >> h ttp://cyclesdeoro.com> >> http://www.classicrendezvous.com> >> http://www.c arolinacup.com> >> http://www.greensborovelo.com> >> http://www.bikegso.org
> >> http://nbda.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Dale Brown <oroboyz@aol.com>> >> To: Edward.H.Albert@hofstra.edu ; Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> >> Sent: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 4:09 pm> >> Subj ect: Re: [CR]Peter Johnson frames?> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> I've been informed I missed the joke. I guess I did .> >> Edward Albert --leading a sheltered life in --> >> Chappaqua, NY, USA
> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Hh!! I didn't get it either! Arrgghh!> >>> >> So imagi ne that being read by others, folks from abroad or for who > >> English> >> is> >> not their first language! That's why we should watch the humor > >> here on> >> this> >> list....> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Dale Brown> >> G reensboro, North Carolina ?USA> >> http://www.classicrendezvous.com> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> From: Edward Albert <Edward.H.Albert@hofstra.edu>> >> To: JFlynn@campus.fsu.edu; sadiqgill@gma il.com> >> Cc: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> >> Sent: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 3:2 2 pm> >> Subject: Re: [CR]Peter Johnson frames?> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >>> >> I've been informed I missed the joke. I guess I did.> >> E dward Albert --leading a sheltered life in --> >> Chappaqua, NY, USA> >>> >
>> >>>>> "Sadiq Gill" <sadiqgill@gmail.com> 03/07/08 2:24 PM >>>> >> I thin k these are related to the Dick Power frames....> >>> >> On Fri, Mar 7, 200 8 at 1:08 PM, Flynn, John <JFlynn@campus.fsu.edu>> >> wrote:> >>> >>> I was just over on the Classic Rendezvous site looking at Peter> >>> Johnson's f rames. See the series http://tinyurl.com/27eh78 Does > >>> anyone> >>> know if he's still creating them? If so, how might I contact him?> >>> Thanks.> >>>> >>> ~John> >>>> >>> John Flynn> >>> Tallahassee, FL> >>>> >>> _______ ________________________________________> >>> Classicrendezvous mailing lis t> >>> Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> >>> http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/ listinfo/classicrendezvous> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> --> >> Sadiq Gill> >> Richm ond, VA> >>> >>> >> --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts ---> >> mu ltipart/alternative> >> text/plain (text body -- kept)> >> text/html> >> -- -> >> _______________________________________________> >> Classicrendezvous mailing list> >> Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> >> http://www.bikelist.or g/mailman/listinfo/classicrendezvous> >>> >> ______________________________ _________________> >> Classicrendezvous mailing list> >> Classicrendezvous@ bikelist.org> >> http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/classicrendezvous

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