Re: [CR]Re: WAS guess at the maker of nameless frame NOW DiNucci

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From: <"brianbaylis@juno.com">
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:16:17 GMT
To: blkmktbks@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: WAS guess at the maker of nameless frame NOW DiNucci
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Wayne and all,

I looked at the photos of this frame in question. It's a nice frame; but it doesn't look like DiNucci work to me. At least it doesn't look like the Strawberries I saw from the early 70's. It's probabaly a Strawberry frame, but It doesn't look like a DiNucci made frame. I've seen only a f ew in my life and those were many years ago (about 35).

Peter Johnson mentioned to me that his opinion of Mark DiNucci is that M ark is one of the most gifter and naturally talented people he's ever me t. I believe Mark has many talents beyond just beautiful frames. I ran i nto DiNucci, which I haven't seen since about 1985, at the Vanilla Shop framebuilders gathering on Friday night of NAHBS. We talked for a while. He told me something that was definitely one of the highlights of my vi sit to Portland. I learned a few things from Mark when Mike and I (as Wi zard Cycles) visited Strawberry in 1974 to buy some tubing and some lugs . I even bought a pair of those Huret dropouts which I used on my Mother 's mixte frame. Mark hipped me to some style points and some tricks to t hinning lugs before they go on the frame using a belt sander. Those two things helped me to become who I am today.

BTW, a DiNucci frame is even nicer and more refined than the frame in qu estion; at least the few I've seen are.

Brian Baylis
La Mesa, CA


-- "Wayne Bingham" wrote:


Some clarification. When I stated that by '76 DiNucci was building at Merz, that was after he left Strawberry. Don't think he went back there, but maybe. I can try and contact Andy Newlands and see if I can get a time-line, and maybe some info on the frame in question.

Wayne Bingham Lovettsville VA USA

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Wayne Bingham <blkmktbks@gmail.com> wro te:
> I thought about Mark DiNucci when I first looked at the frame. It's
> hard to be sure, since I haven't seen that many DiNucci frames, but
> the lug/crown/shell work looks very similar to his work. It might be
> from Newlands/Strawberry, if that BB cut-out is a Strawberry thing.
> Some contributing factors here are that by '76 DiNucci was already
> building for Jim Merz, and I think the frame in discussion here is
> later than that. Probably early 80s, as Dale suggests. Maybe it's a
> later frame by DiNucci, and he just used that BB cut-out. Not sure
> when Merz went to Specialized, but I do know that DiNucci was
> recruited there by Merz sometime later. Maybe this is a DiNucci frame
> from this interim period, but the rear drop-out/stay detailing is
> certainly different than the DiNucci fashion I'm familiar with. Now
> I'm sort of back to thinking it might be a Strawberry. Interesting
> frame, to be sure.
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> Does anyone know when Merz went to Specialized? When DiNucci did? I
> have contact info for DiNucci, and I'll see what I can find out. Mark
> usually responds, but it usually takes quite a while.
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> Wayne Bingham
> Lovettsville VA USA
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> On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Dale Brown <oroboyz@aol.com> wrote:
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> > http://ebay.com/<blah> cm-NR_W0QQitemZ360030388955QQihZ023QQcategoryZ98084QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem
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> > I am willing to bet that is a Mark DiNucci frame, either under his o wn banner or under that of Strawberry from the early 1980s.
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> > Dale Brown
> > Greensboro, North Carolina USA
> > http://www.classicrendezvous.com
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: trevor segraves <hoontong@yahoo.com>
> > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > Sent: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 10:27 pm
> > Subject: [CR]nameless frame on e-bay
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> > Anyone watching this frame on e-bay
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> > Item "360030388955"
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> > the thin lugs, and rear drop-out transition to seat stay look quite clean.
> > not my size but looks quite lovely. I'd love to hear if anyone could identify
> > possibly a Gangle with that BB cut-out.
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> > cheers
> > Trevor Segraves
> > Lake Forest Ca
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