Re: [CR] Frame ID help wanted

(Example: Production Builders:Tonard)

Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 20:30:42 +0100
From: "Hilary Stone" <hilary.stone@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: shop@cyclart.com
Subject: Re: [CR] Frame ID help wanted
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cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

It is not a Russ - Russ frame numbers all start with ER prefix...

Hilary Stone, Bristol, England

CyclArt Shop wrote:
> Greg,
>
> The seatpost measures 26.8mm, so it is probably 531 as you suspect.
>
> Based on the serial number and its placement, we have had a very educated
> and probable guess that it is an E.F. Russ. We would love to compare some of
> its small details to a known Russ track frame, so if anyone has one, knows
> someone who does, or has photos of one, please contact me.
>
> Thanks a lot for your help so far.
>
> Greg Reiche
> CyclArt
> Vista, CA USA
>
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>
>
> My guess would be that it is a 1937 something, but I can't guesstimate much
> more than that. I hope Jeff Groman or Joe B-Z chimes in. Likely an American
> frame, but could be British as well, as you stated. The seat stay joinery
> looks very clean for a circa 1937 frame. I've seen way messier jobs there.
> As I understand it, the BSA components, lugs, shell, and crown were
> available as a 'kit' back then, so an awful lot of circa 1930s track bikes
> were built with the BSA conjunctions and components....
> What diameter is the seatpost? That's new enough (if it is from 1937) to be
> made of 531 tubing.
> Greg Parker
> Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA