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Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 11:54:38 +0000 (GMT)
From: <gholl@optonline.net>
In-reply-to: <626779.79413.qm@web35507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
To: Mr Donald W Gillies <donald_gillies@yahoo.com>
References: <626779.79413.qm@web35507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
cc: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: [CR]ICS

Don: This group is not drilled out. Although some parts are polished, the SR group has been chrome plated over aluminium-there's a much more valuable gold version. The excellence of ICS's plating over high silicon content aluminium has never been surpassed. Gold plated versions of Campagnolo parts, even those done by Campagnolo all pit and flake after a number of years. Detailed images of all the ICS products, and an excellent history of ICS by Norris Lockley, have been on CR for many years and both the chromed and gold versions of the SR groups are shown both in their boxes and mounted on their respective ICS bikes. Dale has displayed and sold some of the finest ICS bikes ever made. The ICS anti -chain -jump devices, and special RD were patented and work well. Campagnolo was offered, but refused, to produce the patented parts of the group under license. ICS products represent the untimate in high end tuning of Campy Super record, and later C Record parts. They made a wide range of other bicycle parts and tuned frames made by Losa in Italy-these were sold under the rubric "Magni" and later "Design". As all ohter bikes and bike products, ICS has its fans and detractors. ICS products were always very pricey, there were problems in obtaining parts from Campagnolo to tune, and the company, based in Zurich, Switzerland, finally went bankrupt. Its owner, a genial Italian inventor, Artemio Granzotto, is currently manufacturing and selling a patented digital stethoscope-it's sold here in the USA-but it's not available chrome or gold-plated.
George Hollenberg MD
Westport, CT

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mr Donald W Gillies"
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 12:39:00 -0000
Subject: [CR]Ebay Outing : ICS grouppo, mid-80's
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Cc: "Dale Brown"

> CR members group might enjoy looking at this ebay
> auction for a NOS ICS campagnolo grouppo.
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150247904311
> For a short time in the mid 80's, ICS took an already
> expensive super-record grouppo, and polished and
> drilled it out, relabeling it an "ICS Grouppo".
> I just noticed that these grouppos is that they have
> both inner and outer chainguards for the crankset.
> This is not exactly what most list members want to
> have on their racing bicycles ! ! !
> This is the first time I've seen a clean set of
> closeups photos of all the ICS parts, it might be a
> good thing to capture for the CR website.
> - Don Gillies
> San Diego, CA, USA
> _______________________________________________

George Hollenberg MD