Re: [CR]Correct bar end removal and replacement

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From: "ternst" <ternst1@cox.net>
To: "Eugene Powell" <radfin@SpiritOne.com>, <nicbordeaux@yahoo.fr>
References: <440668.39573.qm@web28003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <C2B54B32-FCB0-4587-8D77-E8B1172A2AF7@SpiritOne.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Correct bar end removal and replacement
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 19:39:43 -0700
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cc: CR <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

I remember lots of cork trees in Spain and seeing people 'harvesting' them as it were. What do they do with Spanish cork?
Ted Ernst
Palos Verdes Estates
CA USA


----- Original Message -----
From: Eugene Powell
To: nicbordeaux@yahoo.fr
Cc: CR
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [CR]Correct bar end removal and replacement



> Strictly speaking, I was under the impression these are all Portuguese
> corks. They are merely being acted upon by the various beverage they help
> to contain.
>
> Gene Powell
> Rad Finishes
> Portland, Oregon
> USA
>
> On Jun 5, 2008, at 12:12 PM, Nick March wrote:
>
>> Dear Greg, in reply to your question about the correction factor for
>
>> center
>> ing the removal tool for thicker dia. bar end corks of Italian
>> manufacture,
>> contrary to popular belief and common sense, the equation is not std
>
>> Frenc
>> h dia X Italian dia. / 100 added to std dia., but theoretic hight of
>
>> the ti
>> de at Milan / 3.1416 X circumference of bar inner dia. This is mainly
>> due t
>> o softer and cheaper shiny material found on Italian bikes which has
>
>> a rand
>> om distortion factor. In other words, oil it and whack it in with a
>
>> croquet
>> mallet. As to mixing French and Italian corks, we have found this to
>
>> be da
>> ngerous, as Ialian corks having a lower density and reliabilty factor,
>> on s
>> teep descents air pressure increase within the bars can cause the
>> Italian c
>> ork to shoot out of the bars with a bang which can scare the pants off
>> you,
>> and badly upset the handling of your bike. Regarding English corks,
>
>> little
>> data is available, as the vinyards of England total about twenty
>> five vines. One assumes that Vintage port corks with shims is the normal
>> p
>> rocedure.
>>
>> And with that I shall refrain from further discussion unless offlist
>
>> of thi
>> s topic, lest I incur the wrath of the listmeister. Nevertheless, fun
>> apart
>> , bar end corks are not a joke, they really were very commonly used
>
>> over he
>> re. And I fit them to all my pre 1970 bikes.
>>
>> Nick March, Agen, Lot et Garonne, France
>>
>> --- En date de : Jeu 5.6.08, CyclArt Shop <shop@cyclart.com> a écrit
>> :
>>
>>> De: CyclArt Shop <shop@cyclart.com>
>>> Objet: RE: [CR]Correct bar end removal and replacement
>>> À: "C R List" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>>> Cc: nicbordeaux@yahoo.fr
>>> Date: Jeudi 5 Juin 2008, 20h43
>>> Nick,
>>>
>>> I appreciate you taking the time to cover this important
>>> detail, and to
>>> provide such accurate measurements. In the interest of
>>> doing it even more
>>> right, have a few follow-up questions:
>>>
>>> Don't French and Italian corks work equally well on
>>> either side of a
>>> handlebar? I thought they were only different diameter. I
>>> know you have to
>>> be careful with Swiss corks to make sure they go in the
>>> correct side.
>>> Luckily I have the correct tool for them: a Swiss knife
>>> with the built-in
>>> bar end remover.
>>>
>>> What is the correction factor for centering the screw into
>>> the larger
>>> Italian corks?
>>>
>>> I also noted no mention of English corks. Perhaps you would
>>> be so kind to
>>> cover that in a follow-up, or persuade one of your friends
>>> across La Manche
>>> to do so.
>>>
>>> Thanks, however, for no mention of the new screw-on or
>>> synthetic
>>> abominations found on many new bicycle handlebars.
>>>
>>> Greg Reiche
>>> CyclArt
>>> Vista, CA USA
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
>>> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org]On Behalf Of
>>> Nick March
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 3:09 PM
>>> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>>> Subject: [CR]Correct bar end removal and replacement
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, it's been a litle while since I made a positive,
>>> usful contribution t
>>> o the list, so I'd like to point you to an article I
>>> have written on bar en
>>> ds, or plugs, call them what you will. This often neglected
>>> little detail s
>>> poils many an otherwise perfect restoration, so getting it
>>> right is importa
>>> nt.
>>>
>>> The article is at
>>> http://membres.lycos.fr/partspeekers/newpage27.html
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