Re: [CR]Whilst Randonneuring @ Cirque

(Example: Framebuilders:Rene Herse)

Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:01:06 -0400
From: "pbbikes" <pbbikes@gmail.com>
To: "Robert Clair" <r.clair@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Whilst Randonneuring @ Cirque
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yep a little uptight I think.

Barry Scott Mt Shasta , CA USA

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Robert Clair <r.clair@cox.net> wrote:
> .... will have to toss my hat in the ring with mr. moos on this one. i
> just posted a bit about a salsa saddle that (may or may not be on topic)
> translates into "sit on my face". at least i think it does.
>
> .... what the heck would i know about that, etc !?! i had to stop riding
> years ago because of hip bone arthritis.
>
> robert clair
> alexandria, va 22308
> usa
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerome & Elizabeth Moos" <
> jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> To: "devotion finesse" <devotion_finesse@hotmail.com>; "CR discussion
> list" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 9:03 PM
> Subject: RE: [CR]Whilst Randonneuring @ Cirque
>
>
>
> Well, personally, I find the objections to Davis' post more presumptuous
>> and offensive than his post. What are we here, the Politically Correct
>> Thought Police? Maybe "babe factor" wasn't the PC way to phrase it, but the
>> point that we could use more women in all activities connected with classic
>> bikes and cycling in general was a perfectly valid one with which I strongly
>> agree. If you look hard enough for something to take offense at you will
>> almost always find it, but it would be good to occasionally show some
>> semblance of a sense of humor.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jerry Moos
>> Big Spring, Texas, USA
>>
>>
>> devotion finesse <devotion_finesse@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I don't think I am alone in finding Davis'
>> sexist/homophobic/off-topic/lack
>> ing proper sign off/offensively presumptuous posts boring to say the
>> least.
>> That stuff (and perhaps it's author) has no place here. Now can we get b
>> ack to talking about what a great weekend we had, the great people we
>> spent
>> time with and the incredible bikes we were all fortunate enough to share?
>>
>>
>>
>> Matthew Bowne
>> Brooklyn, New York
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>>
>>> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:51:05 -0400
>>> From: jandro99@gmail.com
>>> To: mdschmidt56@verizon.net
>>> Subject: Re: [CR]Whilst Randonneuring @ Cirque
>>> CC: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>>>
>>> Friends and Mr. Schmidt:
>>>
>>> I have received my share of comments OL concerning my 'sexist' comments.
>>>
>> It
>>
>>> was done in humor and without any malevolence--so my apologies to those
>>> offended I would add that I made no reference to Phil Spector and his ga
>>>
>> y
>>
>>> lover Dr. Evil from the Mike Myers movies. Hard to tell who was pitching
>>> and who was catching although I'd suspect Dr. Evil does the mound work.
>>>
>> I
>>
>>> guess it was sexist of me to leave the boys team out in the cold.
>>>
>>> Let me further clarify....I have no problem with young people showing the
>>>
>> ir
>>
>>> stuff and being proud. My comments on topic # 4 had to do with fellas
>>> obviously higher than a U2 plane on marijuana or some equivalent. Why
>>> drive all the way across country in a multi-colored VW microbus just to
>>> smoke doobs and huff ether?
>>>
>>> Lastly....my apologies to daisy duke and the daft dutch girl......if anyo
>>>
>> ne
>>
>>> would like to punch me in the face, I am available all day today and part
>>>
>> of
>>
>>> the day tomorrow for such bawdy roughhousing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Michael Schmidt
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Davis,
>>>>
>>>> For 10 years, the "babe quotient was never an issue or a need at Cirque
>>>>
>>> du
>>
>>> Cyclisime. If that is what you think we need to make Cirque more fun, t
>>>>
>>> hen
>>
>>> you don't get it. I shared you post with my wife and she thought your
>>>> comment on point 6 was needless, sexist, and offending so I am calling y
>>>>
>>> ou
>>
>>> on it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike Schmidt
>>>> Stirling, NJ
>>>> USA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/8/08 9:42 PM, "Davis Philsson" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just returned form Cirque,had a marvelous time and what not.....a few
>>>>> observations and questions?
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. the swap seemed a bit off from previous years--more modern stuff and
>>>>>
>>>> more
>>>>
>>>>> 'framebuilders'. Seemed like anyone and everyone is building lugged
>>>>>
>>>> steel
>>>>
>>>>> these days.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Seemed an emphasis on randonneuring types. Are we collectively
>>>>>
>>>> getting
>>>>
>>>>> older/heavier/trendier. The going extremely slow on a heavy bike with
>>>>>
>>>> a
>>
>>> extended paunch seemed Au rigour this time.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. On randonneuring? what is with the multiple gear shifters and multip
>>>>>
>>>> le
>>
>>> brake levers. Is it to expend the least amount of calories whilst
>>>>> randonneuring; or, is a belt and suspenders kind of anxiety driven moxy
>>>>>
>>>> ?
>>
>>>
>>>>> 4. Was it me or did some fellas seemed quite baked? I talked to a few
>>>>>
>>>> about
>>>>
>>>>> a 'racing' bike that was leaning on the side of a barn which between th
>>>>>
>>>> e
>>
>>> 4
>>>>
>>>>> of them they couldn't figure if it was for sale or not but did direct m
>>>>>
>>>> e
>>
>>> to
>>>>
>>>>> a guy in a long green T shirt who assured me that it was not really for
>>>>> sale. Did these fellas just roll out of a Cheech & Chong movie or what
>>>>>
>>>> ?
>>
>>>
>>>>> 5. The little hats and wool I don't get in 100 degree weather. Is the
>>>>>
>>>> re
>>
>>> some sort of underground S&M current to this group of which I was not
>>>>> alerted?
>>>>>
>>>>> 6. The daisy dukes at the gate were a nice touch, but what do we need
>>>>>
>>>> to
>>
>>> do
>>>>
>>>>> to up the babe quotient at up coming Cirques? (As a side note can we al
>>>>>
>>>> l
>>
>>> chip in so as to not have to groove on the serpentine pant suit/jumper
>>>>>
>>>> next
>>>>
>>>>> year).
>>>>>
>>>>> 7. The kettlecorn was great. The bratwurst made me jealous and there
>>>>>
>>>> were
>>>>
>>>>> no midgets in the midget kitchen.
>>>>>
>>>>> 8. Where were all the Cali boys? Gorski, Gabus, Fellows, Vincent C?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Davis Philsson,
>>> Gainesville GA
>>> USA
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>
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