Re: [CR] Schwinn Varsity cons...

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:23:29 -0700
From: "Don Williams" <donwilliamsjr@gmail.com>
To: "Dale Brown" <oroboyz@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] Schwinn Varsity cons...
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I don't mean to speak poorly of anyone's old favorite bikes.... I've seen allot of Raleigh bashing so I don't want to evoke those Sprits...

But... Schwinn Varsity(s) were the heaviest slowest clumsiest 10 speeds I ever rode...

I guess if a Masi was a Ferrari or a Condor was an Aston Martin\u2026 A Varsity was a Jeep, or a tractor\u2026

Or a Cadillac maybe? I recall them being in the plus side of 40 lbs.

Stout? Big boned?

Don (270lbs) Williams Woodinville Washington USA

On 6/12/08, Dale Brown <oroboyz@aol.com> wrote:
> The biggest issue with the Varsity had a lot to do with those solid brick
   forks! I think those things were forged ! Maybe even made by the Ashtabula
    Co that made the one piece cranks.. In any case the forks were strong but
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> From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> To: haxixe@gmail.com; Dale Brown <oroboyz@aol.com>
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> Probably true in the case of the Varsity, although I confess I never owne d one.? I did start my lightweight bicycle experience with a UO-8 like many
   others did and thought it magical at the time - but I was comparing to 3-s peed "English Racers".? I must say I think my Schwinn Superior is a better bike than that UO-8, though probably no lighter.? But I can't do a direct c omparison, as I sold the UO-8 about 35 years ago.
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> I remember making the leap from a Varsity to a Peugeot UO-8. The
> difference- even though both were pretty low end "10 speeds" in their
> time- was night and day. The Peugeot was exponentially more fun to
> ride. Once you'd ridden even a low-end Euro
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> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Dale Brown wrote:
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> > << I think with where are country is headed and all that we should all support schwinn. just one man's opinion.
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> > I'll throw it out there.......i'd like to hear more about people's race
   experiences on the varsity or continental I know when i rode my first one in the late 60's as a 12 year old I was so fast. >>
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> > Ron, you ARE joking I hope? Just in case you're not, FYI, the Schwinn w e know and love went broke and everything was sold off... the name (only) w ent to a Canadian company that specializes in big box bikes and has them al l made in China. Hence their availability in Costco, Target and other fine retailers (!) No real Schwinn left to support in my opinion.
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> > Also cruel reality was that the Varsity and Continental were sport recr eational bikes and not racers in any real sense, although many fun tours an d casual rides were made on them. The Paramount was the really only true ra cer early on, later came some other models that might squeeze by into the t rue "racer" designation...
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   and strong bikes. Also amazingly heavy!? :)?
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> > From: Ron Danner
> > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > Sent: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 7:36 pm
> > Subject: [CR]Classic Schwinn
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> > Thanks to all the members who have greeted me so enthusiastically. With
> > y'alls collective will I can lick this condition!
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> > I have searched the archives and don't see much on the racing career of
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> > venerable Schwinn Varsity or Continental. My understanding was that the
> > Varsity took its name after its riders placed high in certain collegiat e
> > competiotions which were popularized by an unnamed american film. A cer tain
> > prominent list member has also chimed in that it was possible that Merc kx
> > may have rode rebadged varsity's during some of his more competitive ye ars.
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> > I think with where are country is headed and all that we should all
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> > experiences on the varsity or continental I know when i rode my first o ne
> > in the late 60's as a 12 year old I was so fast.
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> > Ron Danner
> > Hop Bottom Township
> > Susquehanna PA USA
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