Re: [CR]Helyett Randonneur on French Ebay - Item 320263783867

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Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:46:30 -0400
From: "yavo" <>
To: "Norris Lockley" <>
Subject: Re: [CR]Helyett Randonneur on French Ebay - Item 320263783867
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I think that this was a Gitane with Helyett decals. See this different bike on French eBay:<blah> Fred Yavorsky Jenkintown, PA

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Norris Lockley <> wrote:
> First of all, my apologies for outing this bike to the Lisst, after the a
> uction has finished, and the bike is now destined to go to Japan.
> However I only noticed it shortly before the auction was due to close and,
> with the seller living quite near to where I have my house in France, I dec
> ided to have a bid or two. Again it was not straightforward..and it took se
> veral minutes before I decided to risk my money.
> The principal reason for my uncertainty about the bike is that it looks as
> though it has existed in a time warp. The Helyett company, based at Sull
> y-sur-Loire, not far from Orleans where the seller lives, closed down in 19
> 62. However this Helyett frame has the skeletal rear drop-outs found on fra
> mes from the mid-70s, and Prugnat long-point windowed lugs that I don't rec
> all seeing on the wholesalers' lists in the early 60s. Same goes for the fo
> rk crown.
> It's an odd-looking bike...the frame looks more like a racing frame that a
> randonneur..just look at that fork rake (for a 60s bike?). Some details of
> the frame's build quality can obtained by enlarging the photos..and it appe
> ars to be quite a decently constructed frame. So why would any serious comp
> any put steel 650 rims on such a bike and a TA chainset with rings for road
> racing..although the cranks are 165mm for touring.
> After playing at Sherlock Holmes for ten minutes or so, I thought that I ha
> d the I slammed a couple of bids until it became evident that th
> e Japanese opposition was keener on the bike than my meer curiosity could m
> anage.
> If anyone out there would like to interpret the origin of this frame..and w
> hy it is like it is...I would be pleased to hear from that I can c
> heck my theory out.
> Norris Lockley, Settle
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Fred Yavorsky
Jenkintown, PA