Re: [CR]Torpado or Italvega

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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:55:30 +0200
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Marc_Oliver_K=FCnne?= <mo@moadvertising.de>
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To: FujiFish1@aol.com
Subject: Re: [CR]Torpado or Italvega
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cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Whow that`s really great,

Thank you all for twisting your minds and the profound answers you gave. I heard about the maillist and Mark Agree before I tried CR but what I learned was more than I ever expected. I was very happy if I could get some pictures because I'll try to do the repaint in a nearly original style/colour. It was also great if anyone could say something about the equipment. Possibly I don't have to buy Campy Parts for it!? If it's OK i'll send photos to you Mark Agree:

Thank you to all of you

FujiFish1@aol.com schrieb:
>
>
> Marc sez:
>
> I bought a vintage bike, sold to me as a GIOS. Doing some research I
> found out that it may be either a TORPADO or a ITALVEGA. I`m not worried
> about that it si NOT a GIOS but for a proper restoration I need more
> information about built and year. It has some characteristcs of the
> "superlight" and some of the "super record". It is equipped with a
> Shimano Crane rear derailleur, Dura Ace 1st gen. front derailleur, crank
> set, headset and brakes/brake levers a 3ttt stem the 3ttt supperleggero
> handlebar, There are no Braze-on cableguides and the rear wheel space is
> 120mm.
> I was happy if anybody could help.
>
> Pictures are here:
>
> http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=439463
>
> and here:
>
> http://forum.tour-magazin.de/showthread.php?t=141805
>
> Thank You
>
> Marc Oliver Kuenne, Wegberg, Germany
>
>
> Mark (Ritz) sez:
>
>
>> There are many similarities between the two brands, since they were
>> built in the same factory. My guess is Torpado, as the shape of the stay
>> caps looks a little different from the ItalVega Superlight/Super Speciale
>> as I remember it. The parts are certainly not ItalVega specification.
>> Mark Agree might be some help. Mark, you out there?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mark Ritz
>> In very smokey Arcata, California, USA
>>
>>
>
> I have been looking at Bulgier's catalog,and a scan of a negative that
> has my friends ca 1973 Superlight in it.
>
> The caps look like the 76 Superlight in Bulgier's catalog and my
> friend's Superlight to me. I think it is called a concave curve.
>
> BUT...over on BF, one of our fellow CR types pointed out the routing of
> the derailleur cables. They go under the BB. The sources I have show
> them over. Later year? When did the Italvega marque die?