Re: [CR]Romic Bikes

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Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:38:42 -0700
From: "Rich Pinder" <rpinder@usc.edu>
Subject: Re: [CR]Romic Bikes
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Your post makes me realize I've gotta get going in finishing up the Romic pages ! And with more showing up, and commanding higher prices, it's a timely post. That was a nice one you scored Jerry.

Romic (Ray Gasorowki) were indeed very nicely crafted, american made bikes. No matter the tubset, the quaility and finish were very high indeed.

Ted posted a long while back about selling his bikes here in Southern California. I bought mine from a fellow that bought it new in New Orleans.

Ray built quite a few bikes under the Romic name, from two different shop locations in Houston. The count, which after my great meeting with Gerry a few months back, I believe is just under 15,000. The company, Romic Cycles Inc, had Ray as the main driver for all the early years, with his wife Gerry being involved in the front office all along. Their three children (Michael, Debbie and Chris) also worked at the shop over the years, with Chris being the one who (along with Gerry) tried to keep the business afloat after Ray's passing in 1996.

Looking at the build books and hearing from numerous ex employees, he mainly used two different tubesets - CroMolly of the 'High Ten' variety, and Reynolds 531. (Jerry's example below is the former I believe)

I'm unaware of direct involvement with mass production companies but he DID consult and help with a few - Vista and Roland are two off shore brands he had a hand in. But I'm quite sure, with the exception of maybe some prototypes, he did not building FOR them. While in Houston I visited Mark at Cyclone Sales - and he had on consignment a big, tig welded tandam frame, labeled 'Roland', which Mark is sure was a prototype that Ray did and they branded with their company logo.

Stay tuned... MUCH more coming - if I can just claw out a BIT more time on the webpages !!

Rich Pinder Van Nuys, CA

Mine: http://www-hsc.usc.edu/~rpinder/romic.html

Jerome & Elizabeth Moos wrote:
> Someone replied offlist that he has a Sekai that looks identical to the Romic touring bike I posted yeserday. Is it possible that Ray Gasorowski had these made in Japan by the same people who produced Sekai for another American importer? Since it seems these were sold by a lot more shops than I realized, including CDO, maybe some of the LBS owners know the story. There is no tubing decal, but the bike does have Japanese DO's and mostly Japanese components, although the brake calipers are Weinmann 500.
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> I had always thought Ray, with maybe an assistant or two, perhaps for a while including his son, built all the bikes sold as Romics. But then, until yesterday, I had thought that Romics were only sold at shops within 100 miles of Houston, or at least within Texas. But now it seems they were sold in shops as far away as Minneapolis and Carolina. That would imply decent production numbers, and I have to wonder if Ray could have produced that many.
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> I visited the Romic shop several times in the early to mid 80's, to order and later pick up a custom track frame, and also to have a couple of frames repainted. There was no evidence of any sort of mass production going on. Seemed pretty much like a one-man shop. The building was a fairly large steel warehouse, so it could have accomodated receiving and shipping of bikes contract-built in Japan. I didn't notice any such bikes in the warehouse, but I wasn't really looking for them, and if they were all boxed, I might not have thought to inquire what the boxes were. On the other hand, my visits were all within maybe a three-year period, so there could have been either a larger scale production operation or receiving and shipping of contract-built bikes that had ended before my first visit.
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> Anyone know the whole story?
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> Regards,
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> Jerry Moos
> Big Spring, Texas, USA
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> Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Received today this bike:
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> http://ebay.com/<blah>
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> Those who know me know I am a cheapass, so a complete touring bike for less than 1/3 the price of a Limited Edition Ti Brooks Swallow, or $30 more than a long sleeve Vintage Velo wool jersey is hard for me to resist. Especially with the excellent SunShine ProAm wheels and the equally excellent Sugino Mighty Tour cranks. And I love Weinmann 500 brakes - everything you need - nothing you don't.
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> What makes this a bit special for me is that Romic was built by the late Ray Gasorowski in Houston, TX. from who I bought my daughter's 24" wheel junior road bike and a custom track frame In The Day. he also repainted a couple of bike for me. One surprising thing is that the bike has a foil decal from a shop in Minneapolis. I thought Ray only sold through shops in Houston and the surrounding area.
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> Unpacking it I find it has bluish green GB rubber barend plugs. I thought these were "GB" as in Gerry (or is it Gary) Burgess, but it also say "Paris". Does "GB" then mean Giles Berthoud instead? If so, this raises the issue of the bar coverings. As seen in the photos, these look similar to perforated sewn-on leather coverings. But instead, the are rubber. Not the fragile foam like Grabons, but thick, heavy rubber. Could these bar coverings be Berthoud as well? If so, I may have to rethink my initial inclination to cut them off.
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> Regards,
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> Jerry Moos
> Big Spring, Texas, USA