RE: [CR]Important (and not so) notes from List meister

(Example: Component Manufacturers:Chater-Lea)

From: "Mark Lawrence" <mark.lawrence@firstreadthis.com>
To: Dale Brown <oroboyz@aol.com>, "classicrendezvous@bikelist.org" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:28:13 +0100
Subject: RE: [CR]Important (and not so) notes from List meister
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Dear Dale,

My deepest sympathy to you for your dad's death. Last week my grandfather died, also of cancer, and after a struggle, and his peaceful end was a bles sing for us too. And coincidentally, he worked in the related field of roc ket mechanics, although his were intermediate range ballistic missiles dest ined for cold war service. He was a quiet man, but good to have around - a nd I'm sure you understand me when I say that it takes you by surprise how much you miss someone when they are gone.

It's been great to on the site again, and thanks for the reminder about sig ning all messages.

Regards

Mark Lawrence Oxford England

-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-boun ces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Dale Brown Sent: 22 July 2008 18:32 To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Important (and not so) notes from List meister

Hi Classic Rendezvous gang:

First let me congratulate you all for conducting yourselves in a more-or-l ess congenial and civil way these past months. It has required very moderat e extra work by me "behind-the-scenes". This is good because as a few of yo u know, I have been dealing with my Dad's battle with cancer. He passed awa y yesterday; it was a blessing as he was having a tough time of it toward the end. FYI, my Dad, Clinton E. Brown, among many palmares was in 1960 Chief of the Theoretical Mechanics Division at NACA/NASA, and involved with the earl y space program as head of the Lunar Missions Steering Group at Langley.? h ttp://history.nasa.gov/SP-4205/ch3-3.html. He was a neat guy & great dad...

This forum has grown to be over 1500 members... the traffic to the Classic Rendezvous web site has also steadily increased. I hope you all will consid er the banner advertisers who make it all possible for your vintage bike bi ts and pieces.

I also need to remind you that occasionally a member gets the auto-boot (i. e., is removed as a CR member) due to failing to sign their messages as req uired. Often it's a new member who, despite warnings in the sign up process , simply did not read the rules. Whoever gets caught up this way can simply sign up again, but I am hoping the pain-in-the-posterior factor will remin d them to play the game according to the rules...

Finally, I do ask all members to refresh their memories of the basics. Here are the biggies: - Sign off every message with first and last name, city, state and country. (no abbreviations or cute nick names, etc., please.) - Stay on topic (If you start a message saying "This may not be on topic, b ut...", you shouldn't send it at all!). - Don't be mean, sarcastic or harsh toward other members, ever. - Avoid humor, is most often misunderstood and causes the above. - Don't ask "what is this worth?" - Don't post 'For Sale' items more than once. - Only offer items For Sale with a set price (Ebay is for auctions, not the CR list) - Ask me off list first if you are unsure of what's appropriate to post to this list...

Thanks and enjoy this forum, Dale

Dale Brown Greensboro, North Carolina USA http://www.classicrendezvous.com

-----Original Message----- From: Mark Lawrence <mark.lawrence@firstreadthis.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:35 pm Subject: RE: [CR]Sologne Pannier Bags

I'd really like to know more about the origins of cycling bags - cloth and construction, as well as designs through the years. Bags seem as important important a part of the cyclotourists armoury as anything else. Yet, compa red to other cycling components, bags (panniers and handlebar bags) are cur iously under documented.

I often squint to see details of the bags in the archive photographs of Bi cycle Quarterly. For example, a frequently seen style possibly predating t he current Sologne design has a single horizontal strap below the lid faste ner, presumuably to act as a compressor where criss-cross laces became used by Sologne. To my knowledge the name of these have not been recorded anyw here in any English speaking source.

Kind regards,

Mark

Mark Lawrence
Oxford
England