[CR] Re: Was 7-Eleven Merckx, now Caliper arm shapes, but NOT chrome on aluminum

(Example: Framebuilders:Chris Pauley)

Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:50:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Jack Gabus" <jack_gabus@yahoo.com>
To: John Baron <jb@velostuf.com>, Ray Dobbins <raydobbins2003@yahoo.com>, Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com
In-Reply-To: <987894.75926.qm@web55901.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Subject: [CR] Re: Was 7-Eleven Merckx, now Caliper arm shapes, but NOT chrome on aluminum


Tom:

All I can bring to the party on this is that gentleman I purchased the fram e from said he bought it in Milan in 1983 and the entire gruppo on the fram e is original. I have to take him at his word.

Regards,

Jack

Jack (Giacomo) Gabus Laguna Beach, CA United States of America jack@sh ermangabus.com http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/Giacomo-Gabus/?g2_page =2


--- On Mon, 8/4/08, Tom Dalton wrote:


> From: Tom Dalton <tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Was 7-Eleven Merckx, now Caliper arm shapes, but NOT chrome on a luminum
> To: jack_gabus@yahoo.com, "John Baron" <jb@velostuf.com>, "Ray Dobbins" < raydobbins2003@yahoo.com>, "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist .org>
> Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 8:07 AM
> Funny how these threads crossed.  I went to view pics of
> Jack's 7-11 Merckx and stumbled upon a familar
> Specialissima.  This is THE bike I was discussing with John
> Barron a few months back.  In contrast to Ray's
> Specialissima, Jack's has calipers that appear to be
> based on the later script logo calipers
>  
> http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/Giacomo-Gabus/83+Bianchi+Specialissim a+X3/Picture+008.jpg.html
>  
> Ah-ha!  And going to John's website just now I see
> that he's been reflecting on this issue...
>  
> http://www.velostuf.com/caliper-versions%20010.JPG
>  
> John, I agree with your conclusion that your Bianchi
> calipers are based on the later "script logo"
> calipers, and I will add that I believe that this is also
> the case with Jack's calipers. Also, I suspect that the
> rare set of block-logo-with-later-profile arms that are
> shown on your site are probably exactly what Campy provided
> to Bianchi to make the later style of Specialissima
> panto'd calipers.  http://www.velostuf.com/DSCN0623.JPG
>  
> Looking at all three sets (Jack's Bianchi set,
> John's Bianchi set, and the NIP
> block-logo-with-later-profile set) you can see that they all
> have the full compliment of later style hardware normally
> associated with the 1985 and later script logo calipers. 
> It is possible that Campy was providing these sets to
> Bianchi (and others?) before 1985, but I have my doubts. 
> While a reprofiled arm was available as early as the 1983
> intro of the Anni group, the Anni calipers used the same
> hardware as the old block logo calipers (aside from the
> locknut, and arguably better chrome).  The hardware on
> these three caliper sets didn't show up on any Campy
> production before 1985, AFAIK.  Jack, is it possible that
> your calipers are not original to the Specialissima, or that
> your Specialissima is later than the 1983 vintage you
> ascribe?
>  
> Tom Dalton
>  
> Bethlehem Pennsylvania, USA