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Today's Topics:
1. Are new French threaded freewheels possible? (Thomas Adams) 2. Re: 700C clincher timeline (David Snyder) 3. Info wanted on Austro-Daimler SE model. (Richard K) 4. 1974 Cinelli SC original parts query (George Allen) 5. Another Ciocc resto-mod update!!! (Jesse Hearndon) 6. OT? Nishiki TT/funny bike (David Bean) 7. Re: Fuji Catalog Info On the Site (brian daniel) 8. Re: Another Ciocc resto-mod update!!! (Steve Valladolid) 9. FS: 2 Period skinwall clinchers 10. Re: Fuji Catalog Info On the Site (John Barry) 11. Re: Source for gumwall 700x23ish clinchers? 12. Which Way Round?? (Jerome & Elizabeth Moos) 13. mystery track frame info needed and need memphisto decals
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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:46:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Adams <thomasthomasa@yahoo.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Are new French threaded freewheels possible? Message-ID: <783365.50685.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Reply-To: thomasthomasa@yahoo.com Message: 1
Dear List:
This month's frustration is with the 3-4 sets of elegant hubs I have sittin g around the bench that I don't want to build into wheels because they are french threaded and it's difficult to impossible to get usable freewheels f or them. By usable I mean 5 speed 14-26 through 14-30 tooth. Ultra si x spaced freewheels in these sizes and french threads would make me turn ha ndsprings, but I know that's not going to happen.
If you see french threaded freewheels, they are either beat to death, or 13 -22 teeth and smaller. It makes sense, as the ones that weren't used are in mighty racer sizes, while the ones that gave sensible gear ratios are c hewed up. The last time I saw a 14x28 tooth french threaded NOS freewhee l, it went for more than $100.
What would it take to approach Sunrace or another manufacturer, and get a r un of 14-26 5 speed french threaded freewheels made? I think this size is optimal as it's compatible with the largest number of derailleurs, fram es and hubs, and at least gives a decent flat land gear spread. Tourists could run a triple.
French theads are a hair smaller than english/italian, so the freewheels wo uld have a touch less material cut away, right? Are the freewheel body b lanks big enough to allow french threads to be cut? If so, is there anyt hing more to the operation than to have Sunrace stop the line, put in a fre nch tap and cut a couple hundred french threaded bodies?
Or could it be done by a small/home machine shop? Then we just need unth readed freewheels, and we could cut the threads ourselves, assuming we can find a correct tap and assuming an assembled freewheel will allow a tap to pass through and cut the threads.
Does anyone know what the minimum order is? If it's a couple thousand, i t probably won't happen. But if it's 100 freewheels, I'm fairly sure the re would be a market for them.
Alternatively, does anyone have 14x26 or 28 tooth french threaded freewheel s for sale for around $50-$75?
The things you think about while avoiding doing chores at the work bench.
Tom Adams Manhattan KS
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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:25:25 -0800 From: "David Snyder" <dddd@pacbell.net> To: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: Re: [CR]700C clincher timeline Message-ID: <009101c8f994$e47a3770$4001a8c0@compaq> References: <335031.22974.qm@web82204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <a06230942c4c21ea88130@[192.168.1.33]> <BAY123-W42507E108AABDC640FD33DD1740@phx.gbl> <a0623094bc4c22c18a76b@[192.168.1.33]> <BAY123-W55E6BD5897A4BC97A6346BD1740@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain;format=flowed;charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2
Indeed, on-the-road blow-offs tend to happen after extended braking.
I've twice had tires blow off of Araya rims while riding. Two different
tires (one 23mm Trex/Matrix wired, one Schwinn/Panaracer Circuit folding) on two different rims (both narrow, one red-label 700c and one a CTL-370).
Both instances were on the front wheel, running 95psi. One occurred after descending Page Mill road, the hairpin right hander at the very bottom after bearing right at the Y intersection (no longer on Page Mill road, I guess). The other occurrance was coming into Glendale from the south if I recall. There's straight and steep descent there. Both loud blow-offs were preceded by several wheel revolutions of tire thumping against fork leg!
One other blow-off occurred in my livingroom. Narrow, gold Araya with a
cheap, folding Michelin (Select?). I heard a noise and found about 8" of the bead atop the rim's edge. I was able to deflate before the tube escaped!
David Snyder Auburn, CA usa
>
> Hi Jan,
>
> thanks. I wasn't doubting it. I was just hoping that it happened
> soon
> aft
> er inflation, not on a downhill turn.
>
> regards,
> Steve James
> Bronx, NY USoA
>
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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:48:44 +0000 From: Richard K <collectorsrkd@hotmail.com> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]Info wanted on Austro-Daimler SE model. Message-ID: <BAY116-W175138799CEC4BCA13BB96A2740@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 3
I have had an Austro-Daimler SE model bike hanging in my garage for
years.
My son now wants to update this bike. He would like some further
informati on as to where in the hierarchy of AD bikes this 'SE' model
may fall. Afte r extensive searching online we have not located any
info on this bike and
it's components. I purchased the bike in 1981 in Wisconsin (USA) it is
a r ed painted frame and has a round blue/gold AD badge... the shifters
are Hur et and are located on the down tube ... it also has Weimen and
other 'Frenc h' components.(but no Campy stuff). Does anyone have any
idea just where on
the list between generic to great that this AD-SE model may fall ?
Thank
s.Richard KleifgenStevens Point, WI
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Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:58:57 -0400 From: George Allen <jgallen@lexairinc.com> To: classicrendezvous <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]1974 Cinelli SC original parts query Message-ID: <489CB391.3050404@lexairinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4
My 1974 Cinelli SC frame is back from Peter Weigle safe and sound. Peter
did a great job on the bent drop-out. There's really no sign of any previously bent metal.. After a good cleaning I can begin to put her back together. Most of the original parts are intact except for the following:
Stem- it came to me with a black anodized Cinelli 1A with the 1980's logo. I assume it originally had a old logo Milano 1A, hopefully without
the nutted bar clamp bolt.
Seatpost- it came with some type of unmarked Campy clone. I assume I need a regular Record or possibly SL. The old post measures exactly 26.0
mm. Is this the proper size for a Cinelli?
Seat - It came with a smooth leather padded Unicanitor, #4 I think. Do I
need a #3 or something else.
The wheels consist of small flange Record hubs laced to Fiamme rims. The
labels wore off years ago so I'm assuming they were Red Labels. Are Yellow Labels okay as I have a pair of those of the correct vintage in nice shape.
The drive train consists of an undated Campy triple with a Suntour Cyclone rear, a solid, flat plate Record front, a black Regina chain and
a Zeus 2000 freewheel. I'll go with an undated Record double, use the existing front, procure an early 1970's Nuovo Record rear. But what should I use for the freewheel and chain? I'm sure it will probably be Regina but what kind?
BTW, the brake levers are the earlier Record type with the round holes for cable access. That, combined with the undated, pre1973 crankarms suggests an earlier build than 1974. But maybe not. That stuff may have been laying around when they put it together in 1974 or whenever.
Also, it has no fender mounts on the drops and forks. I know that some Cinellis came with fenders that were promptly removed upon purchase. When did they go fenderless from the factory?
George Allen Lexington, KY USA
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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 18:29:43 -0400 From: Jesse Hearndon <viper7990@hotmail.com> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]Another Ciocc resto-mod update!!! Message-ID: <BAY102-W320AC16643402414A90D89B0740@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 5
Time for another installment of the Ciocc resto-mod :-)
Original bottom bracket (70mm Italian-threaded 36x24t Shimano.....wth)
http://i64.photobucket.com/
Decals in!!
http://i64.photobucket.com/
Before:
http://i64.photobucket.com/
AFTER:
http://i64.photobucket.com/
The black "Ciocc" was handpainted by me
http://i64.photobucket.com/
A neat little upgrade I snatched for 80 dollars, original fork somehow
go t bent =/
http://i64.photobucket.com/
Final assembly begins Monday. The decal set is apparently for an 83' / 84' frame, it seems to be identical except in color to the 83' frame on CR. I think I have an 85 or 86, I see a "5" and "6" stamped on the bottom brac ket housing, could be May 86' or June 85'. Pretty close if you ask me, and the black and yellow look quite at home on the coaster white frame. The fork I snatched up is a carbon-fiber 700c Kinesis fork, somehow the orig inal fork got bent and now the wheel won't fit, and the original fork nee ds a lot of work anyway so I'll slap the CF fork on while I clean up and re pair the original fork. And the CF fork is really REALLY light and aerodyna mic, should help out when I get it up and over 30mph.
Original Shimano 600 crank is staying on, I need to re-pack the BB, som eone explain how Shimano made a 70mm Italian-threaded 36x24t bb, I though t they only did English BB's up until recently. You should have seen the lo ok on our faces when the bike shop and I went to re-thread the BB from over spray and wondered why the Park tool English taps didn't fit, after remov ing a Shimano BB. But they are Italian apparently.
The decals were almost 50 dollars and were from Australia, and were WELL
worth the money. Transfer was excellent, and the colors and decals were V ERY historically accurate. Everything fell into place.
Monday is the final assembly, and I will be filming it and I will upload
and post a link to it this coming week unless I royally screw something up or break something.
Coming soon, 3 way race between me on this Ciocc, an Atala frame, and an early-90's Trek 2300 carbon/aluminum resto-mod
Jesse Hearndon
West Melbourne, Florida, United States
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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:37:07 -0400 From: "David Bean" <beandk@rcn.com> To: "CR List (E-mail)" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]OT? Nishiki TT/funny bike Message-ID: <001901c8f99e$e9142660$6d7ba8c0@dkbwin2k> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Reply-To: beandk@rcn.com Message: 6
http://boston.craigslist.org/
Not mine...
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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 18:55:32 -0400 From: "brian daniel" <morkjr@gmail.com> To: "Stephen James" <sj52@hotmail.com> Cc: usazorro@yahoo.com Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Fuji Catalog Info On the Site Message-ID: <7d62cc140808081555r62d31961te598ca4a6d0a9fc4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <BAY123-W6C8F3DDDEEF62E5EF9D13D1740@phx.gbl> References: <7d62cc140808071450n1a57aa63iaa37eeb8d246b99b@mail.gmail.com> <168557.73744.qm@web50210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <BAY123-W6C8F3DDDEEF62E5EF9D13D1740@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7
Hi John, Stephen.
What I meant was, notice the bar-end shifters in the catalog pictures, just to match them up. I didn't mean to imply that fuji didn't ever use them until later. Sorry if i was confusing about that.
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Stephen James <sj52@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > I have to confess that I thought it a bit unusual that a bicycle
> > that
> bears a "racing" decal on the fork blades would have bar end shifters,
> but as far as I can tell, they seem to be original.
> >
> > I know that bar end shifters have been around since at least the
> > 1950's,
> based on Campagnolo catalogs, but I have no idea how far back SunTour
> started making them. Might someone know? Am I incorrect in presuming
> my Fuji's bar end shifters are original equipment (not that I'm going
> to change them out if they weren't, but I am curious)?
>
> If I'm not totally mistaken, the bar end shifters were standard on the
> Fuji "racing" models of 1971-2. I believe you would have the model
> with the Ukai foam-filled rims and Soyo tires. I had/have the
> midnight blue over chrome model; and it also came in white over
> chrome. I raced that bicycle as it was for several years until a
> crash --not due to the bar-end shifters, but the Fuji was the only
> bike that had them while I ws active.
>
> regards,
> Steve James
> Bronx, New York, USA
>
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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 15:56:12 -0700 From: "Steve Valladolid" <svalladolid@gmail.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Another Ciocc resto-mod update!!! Message-ID: <7ae842ea0808081556t41d28856y1466e7435c761463@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <BAY102-W320AC16643402414A90D89B0740@phx.gbl> References: <BAY102-W320AC16643402414A90D89B0740@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 8
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Jesse Hearndon
<viper7990@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> Time for another installment of the Ciocc resto-mod :-)
>
> Original bottom bracket (70mm Italian-threaded 36x24t Shimano.....wth)
>
> http://i64.photobucket.com/
> G_436
>
2.jpg<http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h183/j-doggy_style/8-8-08%20cioc
c/IMG_4362.jpg>
>
> Decals in!!
>
> http://i64.photobucket.com/
> G_431
>
5.jpg<http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h183/j-doggy_style/8-8-08%20cioc
c/IMG_4315.jpg>
>
> Before:
>
> http://i64.photobucket.com/
> befor
>
e/IMG_3822.jpg<http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h183/j-doggy_style/7-2-
08%20ciocc%20before/IMG_3822.jpg>
>
http://i64.photobucket.com/
>
e/IMG_3837.jpg<http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h183/j-doggy_style/7-2-
08%20ciocc%20before/IMG_3837.jpg>
>
> AFTER:
>
> http://i64.photobucket.com/
> G_435
>
0.jpg<http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h183/j-doggy_style/8-8-08%20cioc
c/IMG_4350.jpg>
>
http://i64.photobucket.com/
>
1.jpg<http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h183/j-doggy_style/8-8-08%20cioc
c/IMG_4351.jpg>
>
> The black "Ciocc" was handpainted by me
>
> http://i64.photobucket.com/
> G_435
>
5.jpg<http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h183/j-doggy_style/8-8-08%20cioc
c/IMG_4355.jpg>
>
http://i64.photobucket.com/
>
4.jpg<http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h183/j-doggy_style/8-8-08%20cioc
c/IMG_4354.jpg>
>
> A neat little upgrade I snatched for 80 dollars, original fork somehow
> go t bent =/
> http://i64.photobucket.com/
> G_433
>
3.jpg<http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h183/j-doggy_style/8-8-08%20cioc
c/IMG_4333.jpg>
>
> Final assembly begins Monday. The decal set is apparently for an 83' /
> 84' frame, it seems to be identical except in color to the 83' frame
> on CR. I think I have an 85 or 86, I see a "5" and "6" stamped on the
> bottom brac ket housing, could be May 86' or June 85'. Pretty close if
> you ask me, and the black and yellow look quite at home on the coaster
> white frame. The fork I snatched up is a carbon-fiber 700c Kinesis
> fork, somehow the orig inal fork got bent and now the wheel won't fit,
> and the original fork nee ds a lot of work anyway so I'll slap the CF
> fork on while I clean up and re pair the original fork. And the CF
> fork is really REALLY light and aerodyna mic, should help out when I
> get it up and over 30mph.
>
> Original Shimano 600 crank is staying on, I need to re-pack the BB,
> som eone explain how Shimano made a 70mm Italian-threaded 36x24t bb, I
> though t they only did English BB's up until recently. You should have
> seen the lo ok on our faces when the bike shop and I went to re-thread
> the BB from over spray and wondered why the Park tool English taps
> didn't fit, after remov ing a Shimano BB. But they are Italian
> apparently.
>
> The decals were almost 50 dollars and were from Australia, and were
> WELL worth the money. Transfer was excellent, and the colors and
> decals were V ERY historically accurate. Everything fell into place.
>
> Monday is the final assembly, and I will be filming it and I will
> upload and post a link to it this coming week unless I royally screw
> something up or break something.
>
> Coming soon, 3 way race between me on this Ciocc, an Atala frame, and
> an early-90's Trek 2300 carbon/aluminum resto-mod
>
> Jesse Hearndon
>
> West Melbourne, Florida, United States
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Beautiful job. I a co-worker of mine just bought an vintage Ciocc at a local store here in the San Diego area and we've been trying to identify it.
I looks very similar to yours. It has a San Cristobal label, Shimano 600 parts, a Cinelli stem and bar (campione del mondo). The number "54" is stamped on the bottom bracket.
Once it gets cleaned up, I'll take a couple of photos and post them.
Sounds like you have confirmed that the Shimano 600 was stock?
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Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:26:13 -0300 From: travis.harry@gmail.com To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]FS: 2 Period skinwall clinchers Message-ID: <MONKEYFOODil8R4a02Q00002f77@monkeyfood.nt.phred.org> Precedence: list Message: 9
Perhaps made by the same company that makes Panaracer Pasellas. (Any connection between Panasonic and Panaracer?)
2 Specialized Turbo tires. 1 slick (R) and 1 similar-to-period-tubular (s)(ie. 4mm raised rib center, between herringbone to complete the 1" of black center.
Both new (1 boxed) , folding, 700 x 25 nominal. Made in Japan $42 CONUS
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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 16:42:56 -0700 (PDT) From: John Barry <usazorro@yahoo.com> To: Stephen James <sj52@hotmail.com>, brian daniel <morkjr@gmail.com> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Fuji Catalog Info On the Site Message-ID: <778725.54019.qm@web50203.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <7d62cc140808081555r62d31961te598ca4a6d0a9fc4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Reply-To: usazorro@yahoo.com Message: 10
Brian,
No worries. I thought that perhaps you knew something I didn't. I find that happens quite a bit. :)
Cheers,
John Barry
Mechanicsburg, PA
> From: brian daniel <morkjr@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Fuji Catalog Info On the Site
> To: "Stephen James" <sj52@hotmail.com>
> Cc: usazorro@yahoo.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 6:55 PM
> Hi John, Stephen.
>
> What I meant was, notice the bar-end shifters in the
> catalog pictures, just
> to match them up.
> I didn't mean to imply that fuji didn't ever use
> them until later. Sorry if
> i was confusing about that.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Stephen James <sj52@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > > I have to confess that I thought it a bit unusual
> that a bicycle that
> > bears a "racing" decal on the fork blades
> would have bar end shifters, but
> > as far as I can tell, they seem to be original.
> > >
> > > I know that bar end shifters have been around
> since at least the 1950's,
> > based on Campagnolo catalogs, but I have no idea how
> far back SunTour
> > started making them. Might someone know? Am I
> incorrect in presuming my
> > Fuji's bar end shifters are original equipment
> (not that I'm going to change
> > them out if they weren't, but I am curious)?
> >
> > If I'm not totally mistaken, the bar end shifters
> were standard on the Fuji
> > "racing" models of 1971-2. I believe you
> would have the model with the Ukai
> > foam-filled rims and Soyo tires. I had/have the
> midnight blue over chrome
> > model; and it also came in white over chrome. I raced
> that bicycle as it
> > was for several years until a crash --not due to the
> bar-end shifters, but
> > the Fuji was the only bike that had them while I ws
> active.
> >
> > regards,
> > Steve James
> > Bronx, New York, USA
> >
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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:32:47 EDT From: PBridge130@aol.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Source for gumwall 700x23ish clinchers? Message-ID: <c64.2b91f0f8.35ce3faf@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 11
If you already read this on BOB, sorry for the redundancy. This subject is important to me - I'm doing my best to recommend these traditional tires to anyone who cares, to try to keep them alive. The decals are slightly more NASCAR than might be preferred, but not too bad.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I promote Gommitalia Calypsos any time I have the chance, as I live in fear of their terminating the classic-looking tire. Very nice, lively, light tire, and they have been durable for me. 700x23.
_http://www.gitabike.com/cgi-bin/shop/gommitalia_loadhome.cgi?user_id=2 3 699&fi le=gommitalia.html_ (http://www.gitabike.com/cgi-bin/shop/gommitalia_loadhome.cgi?user_id=2 3 699&file=gommitalia.html)
I note that the Targa seems to be offered in classic as well, but I've never used that model.
Excel used to carry the classic Calypsos at a good price, but no longer
does, offering only colored, all-black, etc. I'd encourage everyone to call Excel to ask them why. I've spoken with Gita, and that tire is readily available.
Peter Bridge San Diego CA USA
From: DARIN NEDERHOFF <zeringer(AT)hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 11:50:49 -0500 Subject: _[CR]Source for gumwall 700x23ish clinchers?_ (http://search.bikelist.org/query.asp?SearchString="Source+for+gumwall+ 7 00x23ish+clinchers?"&SearchPr efix=@msgsubject&SortBy=MsgDate[a])
I'm looking for some 700x23 -700x25 slick or semi-slick gum-wall tires for my '85 Panasonic Team. Right now the bike has some low-end Michelin Dynami c tires that were on the bike when I bought it. Anyone have some good sugg estions for suitable replacements or preferred sources? Panaracers would b e nice but so far the only road racing type I've seen with gum-walls have b een tubulars.
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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 18:58:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Which Way Round?? Message-ID: <335065.52889.qm@web82204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <783365.50685.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 12
I have a couple of what may be philosophistical questions, but maybe not. Is there one "right" way to install a Brooks seat clamp or a centerpull brake hanger?
First, should a Brooks seat clamp, one used with a straight post, be installed such that the saddle rails run below the bolt that secures the clamp to the post, or above them? I usually see Simplex clamps, whether integrated into the post, or a separate piece, installed with the rails below the bolt, but I often see Brooks seat clamps installed with the saddle rails above the bolt. Is there a right and wrong way, or is this a Big Endian, Little Endian thing?
Likewise, should a CP brake hanger be installed such that the straddle cable installs on the side of the hanger nearest the frame, or the other side? Does it matter? I see it done both ways.
Regards,
Jerry Moos Big Spring, Texas, USA
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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 22:40:42 EDT From: Rnitro1969@aol.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]mystery track frame info needed and need memphisto decals Message-ID: <c08.4288278c.35ce5daa@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 13
greetings
just listed this frame on ebay 300248888194 it is the same one that was on ebay 2 weeks ago i bought it for the parts any idea's who made it.
also need memphisto decals.
the rims from this bike are memphisto but one decal is completely gone and the other is partial.
thanks riobbie fellows lakewood,ca. usa
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