Re: [CR]Jack Taylor's Really Large Flange Rear Hub

(Example: Racing)

From: "Robert Clair" <r.clair@cox.net>
To: "M-gineering" <info@m-gineering.nl>, "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, "Jan Heine" <heine94@earthlink.net>
References: <JJEEKLDDELHGFDGDBELBEECDGIAA.avitzur@013.net.il> <48AE57E5.6020707@m-gineering.nl> <a06230906c4d4872c0930@[192.168.1.33]>
Subject: Re: [CR]Jack Taylor's Really Large Flange Rear Hub
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:36:48 -0500
reply-type=response

... our Old Man came from Robert at Elliot Bay. it is a 50th with the bit longer rear end. ... the front and rear hubs are Specialized, with a Japanese (i believe) drum brake from the period. ... everything works great, even if you're late to the party. i love this old fellow ...

robert clair
alexandria, va 22308
usa


----- Original Message -----
From: Jan Heine
To: M-gineering


<classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [CR]Jack Taylor's Really Large Flange Rear Hub


> At 8:08 AM +0200 8/22/08, M-gineering wrote:
>>Amir Avitzur wrote:
>>>The rear hub on Jack's tandem is super-high flange.
>>>This enables spokes to be changed without removing the freewheel.
>>>
>>
>>it's a drumbrake
>
> On a drum brake, one flange has to be large (to clear the drum). If you
> want to get spokes threaded into the other side (from the inside), you
> need very large flanges, too. (The alternative is using keyhole spoke
> holes, so you can hook the spoke heads into the hole from the outside.)
>
>>
>>>Who made those hubs?
>>
>>Atom?
>
> It looks like a Maxi-Car to me, an earlier model with round holes. The
> front hub is a Maxi-Car Type 2/3 (the tandem hubs were the same for both
> types)...
>
>>
>>>Did any other company make them?
>
> Quite a few companies made drum brake hubs in the 1930s and 1940s. More
> recently, Atom and Maxi-Car made them in the 1970s and 1980s.
>
> What Amir initially referred to are the extra-large flanges that Alex
> Singer and Rene Herse rivetted onto machined-down hubs (usually Maxi-Car)
> to facilitate spoke replacement and beautify their bikes. One company who
> made stock hubs with flanges that large was Prior - see the Barralumin
> bike in the latest Bicycle Quarterly. I am unaware of any problems caused
> by this design.
>
> Jack Taylor's tandem looks nice - too bad there is no view of the complete
> bike. Another listmember owns Ken Taylor's tandem - it appears those guys
> had quite a few tandems between them. All Taylor tandems are pretty cool
> machines, and ride great.
>
> Regarding the last Taylor, I suspect there are quite a few "last" ones, as
> they continued to trickle out after the shop closed...
>
> Jan Heine
> Editor
> Bicycle Quarterly
> 140 Lakeside Ave #C
> Seattle WA 98122
> http://www.bikequarterly.com