Have no fear John.....It will be there and I hope to be riding it :) Eddie Albert Chappaqua, New York, U.S.A
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:13 AM, John Barry <usazorro@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Here, here. I'm eager to read what Peter discovers.
>
> Many people will be disappointed if Eddie doesn't ring that to Cirque next
> year.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John Barry
> Mechanicsburg, PA, USA
>
>
> --- On Wed, 9/10/08, devotion finesse <devotion_finesse@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > From: devotion finesse <devotion_finesse@hotmail.com>
> > Subject: RE: [CR]Eddie's Convincible
> > To: "Peter Brown" <peterg.brown@ntlworld.com>,
> classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 10:18 AM
> > Peter,
> > Please keep us posted with any developments! The meeting
> > of former employe
> > es sounds like a GREAT idea and I am sure I am not alone in
> > my interest in
> > what this rendezvous might uncover. "Connecting the
> > dots" is a big part of
> > what makes this hobby so much fun for me...Looking forward
> > to hearing more
> > about the roots of this special machine!
> >
> > Matthew Bowne
> > Brooklyn, New York
> >
> > > From: peterg.brown@ntlworld.com
> > > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:03:05 +0100
> > > Subject: [CR]Eddie's Convincible
> > >
> > > Since Eddie first contacted me almost a month ago to
> > ask about the
> > > Convincible I have followed his quest to buy it with
> > great interest.
> > > When
> > > the restoration of mine (the one on Classic
> > Lightweights UK) was
> > > complete I
> > > took it back to where it was built at Barton to show
> > it to two gentlemen
> >
> > > who
> > > previously worked at the Hopper factory, one as a
> > frame erector as they
> >
> > > were
> > > called then, and the other in the toolroom where all
> > the bottom bracket
> > > parts were made; apparently they never managed to put
> > them into mass
> > > production. It was those gentlemen who told us that
> > they thought that
> > > no
> > > more than six were made, and until Eddie's find we
> > all believed that to
> >
> > > be
> > > the case. However, there was other evidence which
> > seemed to contradict
> >
> > > that
> > > which now seems relevant. In the Hopper Company
> > account ledgers lodged
> > > in
> > > the North East Lincolnshire Council Archives there is
> > reference to the
> > > purchase of 2,000 convincible transfers at a total
> > cost of five pounds
> >
> > > ten
> > > shillings. In the 1956 stock take, made after
> > Convincible production
> > > ceased, there were 1,900 still in stock, which seems
> > to indicate th
> > at up
> > > to
> > > 50 were made. The frame number of mine was 002, but
> > we know the histor
> > y
> > > of
> > > that one and it was given to a track rider contracted
> > to Hoppers to
> > > test.
> > > He didn't like it but never returned it. The
> > frame number of Eddie's
> > > machine is C41. That number does not follow Hoppers
> > normal numbering
> > > sequence, and I suspect that refers to Convincible No.
> > 41. While the
> > > bottom
> > > bracket of Eddie's has the same purpose of keeping
> > perfect chain
> > > alignment
> > > the method of achieving the movement was obviously
> > developed from my
> > > early
> > > machine by making use of a Cyclo type return spring
> > rather than the
> > > early
> > > twin cable arrangement.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Two more former toolmakers have now been contacted in
> > Barton and we plan
> >
> > > to
> > > get all four of the former employees together at the
> > museum where mine
> > > is
> > > now displayed, and armed with the photographs of
> > Eddie's machine we
> > > shall
> > > see if there are more memories to be prompted.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The speculation about how the name Elswick Vampire
> > Convincible came
> > > about
> > > can only be added to by the name of the other badged
> > version, the Hoppe
> > r
> > > Avenger Convincible. There is obviously more to be
> > learned in the
> > > coming
> > > weeks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Peter Brown, Lincolnshire, England
> > >
> > >
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