Re: [CR]Cinelli Pista on ebay - anyone smell fish??

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 06:07:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Cinelli Pista on ebay - anyone smell fish??
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, hersefan@comcast.net
In-Reply-To: <091520080424.12096.48CDE36E000CD0FC00002F402205889116020E000A9C9D0A08@comcast.net>


Well, how many clones actually used the Cinelli signature seatstays?  Pro bably one of the usual suspects, Windsor, Raysport, maybe Centurion.  The fork looks the same as my Windsor Pro, clearly not the full sloping Cinell i fork crown.  I'm not sure what fork crown was on the Raysports.  What size is the seatpost?  That's usually another tipoff.  If it is a Wind sor Pro, it is probably mid-70's or later.  My circa 1972 Windsor has the lugs drilled with circular holes like a genuine Cinelli while these are no t drilled.  Also, mine has the half chromed seat lug, again like a real a Cinelli, although that could have been painted over.

Regards,

Jerry Moos
Big Spring, Texas, USA


--- On Sun, 9/14/08, hersefan@comcast.net wrote:


From: hersefan@comcast.net <hersefan@comcast.net> Subject: [CR]Cinelli Pista on ebay - anyone smell fish?? To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Date: Sunday, September 14, 2008, 11:24 PM

Hi CR folks,

Stumbled across this on ebay tonight. The fork is clearly off, and my quic k take of the rear dropouts looks like they are incorrect. Rest of details h ard to place. Front headlugs from a quick look seem OK. The slot in the BB sh ell is just plain wrong (there were the bb's with slots later on from the special run that went through the German shop, but his sure doesn't look like those). Can't tell if the seatcluster is right. It all just smells wrong.

I have an interesting imposter in my hands now - wonder what other ones are out there besides the ones on the usual radar. Perhaps someone thinks this is right - but I'm skeptical.

http://ebay.com/<blah> =6&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting

Mike Kone in Boudler CO USA - where we take Cinelli's very seriously in addition to Rene Herse