RE: [CR]Jack Hateley 531 road frame with 140 mm rear spacing FS

(Example: Framebuilders:Norman Taylor)

From: "Tom Harriman" <transition202@hotmail.com>
To: Mitch Harris <mitch.harris@gmail.com>, Jon Spangler <hudsonspangler@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: [CR]Jack Hateley 531 road frame with 140 mm rear spacing FS
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 06:21:27 +0000
cc: Dale Brown <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

Hi Folks. Back in the 1990's a belonged to a tandem club who took local bl ind folks out for a rides every now and then. Several of the bikes had rea r drum brakes, which were helpful at times. I recall the rear spacing as being 145, but it was some time ago. Look on the underside of the left rear triangle, and if there's a small cable stop there, than the bike a t one time had a drum brake. I hope this helps.

Tom Harriman San Francisco, Ca
> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:14:54 -0600
> From: mitch.harris@gmail.com
> To: hudsonspangler@earthlink.net
> Subject: Re: [CR]Jack Hateley 531 road frame with 140 mm rear spacing FS
> CC: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>
> Wasn't 140mm the standard tandem rear spacing at the time this bike
> was built? It may have been made for a tandem hub with the idea of
> eliminating dish, and/or improving chain line, and/or for using a
> tandem hub for some other reason.
>
> Anyway, a vintage tandem rear hub would still be a good option for
> this frame that would not require cold setting.
>
> Mitch Harris
> Little Rock Canyon, Utah, USA
>
> On 9/30/08, Jon Spangler <hudsonspangler@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > There is a gorgeous and intriguing Jack Hateley 531 road frame for sale
   in
> > GB that has spent time in local museums there:
> >
> > JACK HATELEY 50s Hdblt 531 ENGLISH ROAD FRAME
> > Item Number: 350101398809
> >
> > I received the following reply when I asked the seller (apparently an a gent)
> > about the frame's listed 140 mm rear spacing:
> >
> > "Hi,Not sure but during the period that this frame was made there was
   a lot
> > of experimentation and design concepts produced.It could be that a Stur mey
> > hub had been combined with a cyclo style freewheel making quite an
> > interesting gear combination.It would easily be reset down to 130mm etc
   by a
> > pro builder or LBshop. Hope that helps. Might be worth trying
> > ClassicRendezvous for more info and this frame is I believe shown and l isted
> > by Wolverhampton Museum.Happy pedalling alex"
> >
> > Has anyone else in CR land seen this 140 mm rear spacing before or been
   to
> > the Wolverhampton Museum?
> >
> > Jon Spangler
> > who is learning all the time about older bikes in Alameda, CA USA