[CR]Was FS: Cecil Berhinger Frameset 52cm - Now Dents Are My Friend

(Example: Production Builders:Cinelli)

Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 15:31:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
To: 'Classis Rendezvous' <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <c54.368f879c.36112d93@aim.com>
Subject: [CR]Was FS: Cecil Berhinger Frameset 52cm - Now Dents Are My Friend

Well I bought this Behringer and received it today.  Well packed, in cont rast to some bikes discussed today.  Having seen it, I really do believe Behringer should be regarded as an equal of Eisentraut or Moroni.  Not hi ghly ornate, but clean and exquisitely finished.  I'd compare it to my Mc Lean in that way.

There is a small dent in the DT just above the stops for the barcon cables - this is a touring frame and intelligently built for that purpose.  Thus I got a clean original finish frame from one of America's greatest frame b uilders for $300 shipped.  I'm coming to love small dents, as I've now ob tained a Cuevas, an Alberto Masi and this Behringer, not to mention a $50 otherwise very nice Raleigh International frame (OK so that one was a hu ge dent) for half or less of what they might have cost without such a dent.   Almost makes me want to pay some thugs to go around denting Herses and Singers so I can but them cheap.  Just kidding about that, but if you do have a dented Herse or Singer or Toei you want to unload, I might take it o ff your hands.

Regards,

Jerry Moos
Big Spring, Texas, USA


--- On Sun, 9/28/08, Michael Wilkinson wrote:


From: Michael Wilkinson <M4Campy@aol.com> Subject: [CR]FS: Cecil Berhinger Frameset 52cm To: "'Classis Rendezvous'" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 1:54 PM

Hi all,

Recently, I purchased a Toei 650B which I love. It really is a wonderful bike. But, in order to justify the purchase I had to use the dreaded 'sell' word to justify the cost. I know I know. Never sell a bike. But, if I am going to sell something I hope it goes to a good caretaker.

So, I have a Cecil Berhinger road frameset 52cm seat tube c-c and 52cm top tube. The frameset has a Cinelli Bottom Bracket Shell and Columbus tubing. It is a Sport Touring frame and has braze-ons for fenders and bar con shifters. It is the original red paint and decals which are in very good condition. Pics upon request.

The bad news. The original owner wrecked it and the front brake caliper put a small dent in the down tube. I have ridden this a bit and it is fine. You could get it filled or touch it up. The good news. I think the owner only rode this bike a handful of times based on the condition of the equipment.

I am keeping the parts to put on a Bruce Gordon.

These are pretty rare even though Cecil built frames for many years. I have only seen one on ebay in the last 5 years.

Eisentraut gets mentioned quite a bit as the Godfather of Modern American framebuilding but Cecil may pre-date him and was doing cool things with Pino.

I hate selling this but I am thinking the herd and clearing my project queue. I am asking $300.00 for the frameset shipped.

Mike Wilkinson

CR, CO