Bruce, I guess that answers my question. If you don't know what I mean about a sleeve, there is no sleeve.
The reason I thought there was a sleeve is that there is a "step" along t he top edge of the lug. The inside of the top edge is lower than the out er edge. It's pretty clear in the photo:
http://www.classicrendezvous.com/
Whatever the construction technique for this, kudos.
Ray
From: Bruce Gordon <bgcycles@svn.net> Subject: RE: Bruce Gordon's Ti bike. To: raydobbins2003@yahoo.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, "'Dale Brown' " <oroboyz@aol.com> Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 12:28 PM
I\u2019m not sure what you mean about a sleeve?? As for the construction me thods \u2013 I worked with Ross Shafer, founder of Salsa Cycles. There are things going on inside that you don\u2019t see. Ross and I decide d not to divulge the secrets at this time, and I respect his desires. They could be produced a lot easier if there was $$$$ to set up production. Anyone with a wheelbarrow of $$$ - give me a call. I\u2019m currently working on a new Lugged Titanium bike that will be done for the San Diego Bike Show in April 2009 that Brian Baylis is promoting. Regards, Bruce Gordon
From: Raymond Dobbins [mailto:raydobbins2003@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 4:34 PM To: bgcycles@svn.net; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org; Dale Brown Subject: Bruce Gordon's Ti bike.
Congratulations Bruce, that is a spectacular frame!
Is there a sleeve in the seat lug, or is that just the way you profiled t he top edge of the seat lug? The more I look at it, the more I think it' s not a sleeve...which would make that a pretty incredible bit of work.
BTW, this is the photo that shows the seat lug (thanks Dale):
http://www.classicrendezvous.com/
Ray Dobbins