Re: [CR]Ebay biddding collision

(Example: Framebuilders:Chris Pauley)

From: "Robert Clair" <r.clair@cox.net>
To: "Jim Ready" <jimr@rfj.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <569664.15209.qm@web82205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <a062309e0c52a8e3346d2@[192.168.1.34]> <8CB065AA8F2A421-AA4-4AE@MBLK-M08.sysops.aol.com> <01c301c9389a$aa2aa3d0$0701a8c0@VALUED3253602F>
Subject: Re: [CR]Ebay biddding collision
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:36:29 -0500
reply-type=response

... actually sounds like the seller is all smiles now.

robert clair
alexandria, va 22308


----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Ready
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 8:15 PM
Subject: [CR]Ebay biddding collision



>A recent auction displayed a phenomenon all of us using ebay might want to
>watch out for. Or at least it's my
> explanation for a unusually high price paid for a relatively common (off
> topic) item. Since we often bid on on-topic
> items I figure this is ok for the list.
>
> Anyway a pair of barely used Chorus 10 speed metal Ergo levers went for
> $660.00 or so. Here's what I figured happened:
> Two bidders, unbeknownst to each other at the last moment (when we all bid
> anyway...) heaved in very high "clearing" bids, hoping to get
> above the current bid of already too much, ~$300.00. So they each figured
> "well it cant hurt to bid $650 or $700 , that'll make sure I clear the
> likely current bidder who probably is at 320.00 or so." Well two of those
> hit at the same time and you get a "bid collision"
> and the throwaway $600+ clearing bid gets turned into a very expensive
> reality.
>
> Bidder beware...
>
> Jim Ready
> Cupertino, California USA
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dale Brown" <oroboyz@aol.com>
> To: <heine94@earthlink.net>; <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [CR] Re: Using images; Was: Whining about Campagnolo:75 Years
> of Cycling Passion
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>>
>> Jan wrote:
>> <<...Instead,
>> we'll be stuck with this information from an "authoritative" source.? >>
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>> That is the real rub, this book will be used and quoted over and over
>> again... Arrggh!!
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>> Dale Brown
>> Greensboro, North Carolina? USA
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jan Heine <heine94@earthlink.net>
>> To: jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> Sent: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 2:01 am
>> Subject: Re: [CR] Re: Using images; Was: Whining about Campagnolo:75
>> Years of Cycling Passion
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>> At 1:42 PM -0700 10/26/08, Jerome & Elizabeth Moos wrote:?
>> ?
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>>>By the way, I must agree with the earlier comment that the Campy
>>>book is not at all well organized. It is certainly not a
>>>comprehensive history of Campagnolo, nor even a particularly
>>>coherent one. But is does contain lots of interesting anecdotes and
>>>lots of nice photos, albeit that some of the photos seem to have be
>>>obtained discourteously if not actually illegally. I stiil think it
>>>was a bargain at the $24 eBay price and maybe even at the $40 retail
>>>price.?
>> ?
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>> As you say, if you treat it as a "Campagnolo scrapbook," then it may
>> be worth the money. You get some nice photos, some good reproduction
>> of random Campy catalogue pages and some anecdotes about how
>> Campagnolo wooed the press and sports authorities into supporting his
>> company.?
>> ?
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>> To me, the most grating part of the book are the many careless
>> errors. I am afraid that we will spend a few decades on this list
>> discussing whether Huret Jubilee derailleurs really were introduced
>> in the 1960s (1972 appears to be the correct date), whether the
>> Campagnolo Record derailleur dates from the mid-1950s (1962), and
>> whether the Gino Bartali-Fausto Coppi rivalry lasted from 1950 until
>> 1965... at which point Bartali had been in retirement for a decade,
>> and Coppi had been dead five years!?
>> ?
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>> (The Coppi-Bartali rivalry was at its height in 1948, when they
>> watched each other during the world championships, and each was
>> unwilling to pull the other. The rest of the bunch left them behind,
>> and both abandoned the race in disgrace. Coppi and Bartali did work
>> together in the 1949 Tour de France, as I described in a chapter of
>> "The Competition Bicycle" that shows their bikes from that race.
>> Coppi came first, Bartali second, as a result of their truce.)?
>> ?
>>
>> A fact-check would have required little more than going to Chuck
>> Schmidt's Campagnolo timeline and to the Wikipedia website. Instead,
>> we'll be stuck with this information from an "authoritative" source.?
>> ?
>>
>> Jan Heine?
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>> Editor?
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>> Bicycle Quarterly?
>>
>> 140 Lakeside Ave #C?
>>
>> Seattle WA 98122?
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>> http://www.bikequarterly.com
>> ?
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