[CR]Was: UK bicycle lamps, now "Berec'?

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To: johnb@oxford.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:09:54 -0500
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From: "Dale Brown" <oroboyz@aol.com>
Subject: [CR]Was: UK bicycle lamps, now "Berec'?

Wasn't there a grey plastic/nylon/composite/whatever head light similar to these called a "Berec"? They made a rear? lamp as well, IIRC.

So, my question is, does anyone make a modern lamp similar in attachment, i.e., using those fork mounted gizmos??

Dale Brown Greensboro, North Carolina? USA

-----Original Message----- From: John Betmanis <johnb@oxford.net> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:54 am Subject: [CR]Re: UK bicycle batteries & lamps

Alan is absolutely right, it all comes back to me now. The 3-volt battery is the right one for those bicycle lamps. The flat 4.5 volt one was not the one.

John Betmanis Woodstock, Ontario Canada

At 07:05 AM 17/11/2008 -0800, Alan Lloyd wrote:
>I believe that particular lamp used a (nominally) 3 volt "bicycle battery"
>Basically two cells 'stuck' together with one terminal at the front, that touched the back of the bulb directly, and t'other terminal on top that connected to the switch mechanism - the circuit was completed by 'connecting' this terminal through the switch to the body of the lamp.
>I've seen similar lamps here that use two D cells and, at one point in the 1970s, Pifco made an adaptor http://www.alfaquest.com/tempory/pifcoAdapter.jpg that held two AA (?) cells and fitted into these old lamps - after the "bicycle battery" was discontinued?
>These JPEGs came from Paul Costin's excellent write-up at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/catfoodrob/choppers/mechanic/pifcolamp.html, where he describes how to make an adaptor yourself.
>Rear lamps usually used on D cell (which, IIRC, used to be called a U2 in Blighty) but there were some that were similar to the front lamps ...
>Alan Lloyd
>Schaumburg, Illinois, U.S.A.
>--- On Sun, 11/16/08, classicrendezvous-request@bikelist.org wrote:
>> Today's Topics:
>> 7. Re: Hetchins lamps or lanterns, what is appropriate? (John Betmanis)
>> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 12:13:44 -0500
>> From: John Betmanis <johnb@oxford.net>
>> To: rapidfire10ring@hotmail.com,
>> Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> Subject: Re: [CR]Hetchins lamps or lanterns, what is appropriate?
>> Message: 7
>> The most common bicycle front light used by clubmen in the
>> UK in the 1950s was the Everready lamp you see on this bike:
>> http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/bikes/rra-kohler.html
>> They used a flat 4.5 volt battery and also came in black.
>> I've seen chrome ones like it on eBay from time to time,
>> but I think those are newer.
>> John Betmanis
>> Woodstock, Ontario
>> Canada