Re: [CR]Was: UK bicycle lamps, now "Berec'?

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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:15:36 -0800 (PST)
From: "bruce thomson" <masi3v4me@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Was: UK bicycle lamps, now "Berec'?
To: johnb@oxford.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, Dale Brown <oroboyz@aol.com>
In-Reply-To: <8CB16FF35236793-E50-21B@WEBMAIL-MY30.sysops.aol.com>


If there is a reasonable mounting system, let us all know.  The fork blad e mount has serrations like a type of locking interface with slight adjustm ent indents in a radial pattern.  I have seen this on many other items of mechanical nature through out the years and wondered if there could be a c rossover use if to mount them.   I have been on the U.K. site and have seen only those horrible lantern clamps that crunch around a main tube or the fork blades.  Remember the g enerators of decades ago that ruined your paint job when you mounted them w ith a screw clamp.  Then they later would loosen and slip down, adding mo re paint damage.      BT

Bruce Thomson Spokane WA 99204 (509) 747 4314 Masi3v4me@yahoo.com      rapidfire10ring@hotmail.com


--- On Mon, 11/17/08, Dale Brown wrote:
From: Dale Brown
Subject: [CR]Was: UK bicycle lamps, now "Berec'?
To: johnb@oxford.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:09:00 -0000


Wasn't there a grey plastic/nylon/composite/whatever head light similar to these called a "Berec"? They made a rear? lamp as well, IIRC.

So, my question is, does anyone make a modern lamp similar in attachment, i .e., using those fork mounted gizmos??

Dale Brown Greensboro, North Carolina? USA

-----Original Message----- From: John Betmanis <johnb@oxford.net> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:54 am Subject: [CR]Re: UK bicycle batteries & lamps

Alan is absolutely right, it all comes back to me now. The 3-volt battery is the right one for those bicycle lamps. The flat 4.5 volt one was not the one.

John Betmanis Woodstock, Ontario Canada

At 07:05 AM 17/11/2008 -0800, Alan Lloyd wrote:
>I believe that particular lamp used a (nominally) 3 volt "bicycle battery"
>http://www.alfaquest.com/tempory/bikeBattery.jpg.
>
>Basically two cells 'stuck' together with one terminal at the front, that touched the back of the bulb directly, and t'other terminal on top that connected to the switch mechanism - the circuit was completed by 'connecting' this terminal through the switch to the body of the lamp.
>
>I've seen similar lamps here that use two D cells and, at one point in the 1970s, Pifco made an adaptor http://www.alfaquest.com/tempory/pifcoAdapter.jpg that held two AA (?) cells and fitted into these old lamps - after the "bicycle battery" was discontinued?
>
>These JPEGs came from Paul Costin's excellent write-up at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/catfoodrob/choppers/mechanic/pifcolamp.html, where he describes how to make an adaptor yourself.
>
>Rear lamps usually used on D cell (which, IIRC, used to be called a U2 in Blighty) but there were some that were similar to the front lamps ...
>
>Alan Lloyd
>Schaumburg, Illinois, U.S.A.
>
>
>--- On Sun, 11/16/08, classicrendezvous-request@bikelist.org wrote:
>
>> Today's Topics:
>> 7. Re: Hetchins lamps or lanterns, what is appropriate? (John Betmanis)
>>
>> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 12:13:44 -0500
>> From: John Betmanis <johnb@oxford.net>
>> To: rapidfire10ring@hotmail.com,
>> Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> Subject: Re: [CR]Hetchins lamps or lanterns, what is appropriate?
>> Message: 7
>>
>> The most common bicycle front light used by clubmen in the
>> UK in the 1950s was the Everready lamp you see on this bike:
>> http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/bikes/rra-kohler.html
>> They used a flat 4.5 volt battery and also came in black.
>> I've seen chrome ones like it on eBay from time to time,
>> but I think those are newer.
>>
>> John Betmanis
>> Woodstock, Ontario
>> Canada