AW: [CR]Raleigh Gran Sports in general...

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From: Schmid <>
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Subject: AW: [CR]Raleigh Gran Sports in general...
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:45:01 +0100
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See pics of my Gran Sport im my cycling blog I started two yea4rs ago but did not care of the last two years. I just added my Baer some days ago. Everything about the bike in the blog, I am still not shure whether it is a real Garn Sport, because it was missing the Gran sport decal and came with an "wrong" tubing decal. Everything else was just like described in the 1975 Raleigh catalogue. Here is the link:

Michael Schmid Oberammergau Germany Tel.: +49 8821 798790 Fax.:+49 8821 798791 mail:

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: [] Im Auftrag von Fred Rednor Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Dezember 2008 04:44 An: classic Betreff: [CR]Raleigh Gran Sports in general...

So how many different types of bikes did Raleigh badge as Gran(d) Sport? I 'm really not a Raleigh aficionado/expert of any degree at all, but I have a very strong recollection of a Raleigh Gran(d) Sport that was on display i n my local bike shop, circa 1968. (I will not bore you with the details of why I remember the bike so distinctly.)

Perhaps I have the model wrong, but I really think that is not the case. A nyway, this Raleigh used Reynolds tubing and was painted a dark shade of fl amboyant blue. The derailleurs were Campagnolo Gran Sport; the bike came e quipped with fenders (or should I say mudguards?) and a large Brooks saddle bag.

Does anyone else recall this version of the Raleigh Gran(d) Sport, or do I have the model name wrong?
     Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (USA)
> That is indeed Lagoon Blue or Laguna Blue, and is more associated with
> Carl ton than Raleigh.  Raleigh built a Carlton version of the
> Raleigh Profess
> ional and sponsored a Carlton team that was suppiled with
> Carlton Pros in t
> he Lagoon Blue and White scheme.
> The Gran Sport is an unusual bike.  It was (at least in
> that era) 531 DB
> throughout, probably one of the least expensive bikes ever
> to use that top
> quality tubeset.  I'm not sure whether it was built at
> Nottingham or Work
> sup.  The early/mid 70's Gran Sports used a different
> serial number code
> from the rest of the Raleigh lightweights.  Also, the
> spelling of the mod
> el name varied from year to year.  Some are marked
> "Gran Sport", other "G
> ran Sports" and some may have even been
> "Grand" rather than "Gran".
> OE would have been a long cage Simplex Criterium RD and pushrod FD
> with pla stic Prestige DT shifters. Actually the plastic Criterium
> derailleurs were
> very good, although they got a bad reputation due to
> resembling the much w
> orst plastic Prestige model. But the plastic Simplex
> Prestige DT shifters
> were absolute crap. So the VGT with SunTour levers you are
> contemplating w
> ound up on probably as many 70's Gran Sports as the OE
> did. I have a circa
> 1970 Gran Sports with exactly that setup.
> For a long time the the Gran Sport didn't get any
> respect, as it was well b
> elow the top of the line despite being 531 DB throughout.
> For years you co
> uld scarcely give them away. But lately, they seem to have
> gained some pop
> ularity, especially the mostly blue with white panels,
> which is rarer than
> white with blue panels. I got my mostly white circa 1970
> Grand Sports dirt
> cheap, but actually had to pay something resembling a fair
> price for a mos
> tly blue circa 1974 one a few months ago.
> Merry Christmas,
> Jerry Moos
> Big Spring, Texas, USA
> --- On Thu, 12/25/08, Rich Pinder <>
> wrote:
> From: Rich Pinder <>
> Subject: [CR]My mid 70's Gran Sport
> To: "classic"
> <>
> Date: Thursday, December 25, 2008, 1:56 PM
> I'm on a tear here, with mid level bikes! This one
> is a Gran Sport,
> the model DL 160 I think. I rescued it because I liked the
> color.
> Someone said it is 'Periwinkle' blue ? But I
> found up on Sheldons
> site the catalog picture (linked on my page - click the
> Heron logo)
> calls a reverse imaged scheme 'Lagoon Blue /
> White'.
> In addition to being totally gucked up with years of grime, this bike
> came with an assortment of broken, plastic, simplex
> shifters and
> derailleurs. In another fit of Irreverance, I opted for a
> VGT and some
> allow suntour levers. (hey, I figured it was like droppin
> a 283 in an
> early Jaguar - no harm, no foul ??). I took it for a
> Christmas Eve ride
> - LOVE the ride. From the catalog: "...a more
> comfortable yet
> efficient riding position than an all out racing
> bike..." - So that
> translates into what... a 2 degree difference in the
> head/seat tube
> angles ??
> Seat tube has the 'Carlton' decal, and the
> heronHeadbadge says
> 'Nottingham'. Hmmm. Do I recall someone saying
> all the 531 frames
> were
> done at Carlton (the Worksop shop) ??
> The seat is one worn Brooks... with a swap out, I think
> this bike will
> see a LOT of riding !!
> Pics at:
> > I came up with a plan - I'm working on my
> "Twelve Days of
> Bicycle
> > Christmas". Do any of you have those bike
> projects, that are JUST
> > about completed.... or you've got the bike
> riding, but SOMETHING is
> > not quite right ? We'll, my goal in this two
> week vacation is to
> > work on, and complete, TWELVE of these things (above
> Trek is one
> > !).... It'll be a GREAT feeling if I pull it
> off.
> Rich Pinder
> Van Nuys, CA