Re: Re[4]: [CR]A BH track hub. Italian ? http://tiny.cc/LZloq


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From: "ternst" <ternst1@cox.net>
To: "Dmitry Yaitskov" <dima@rogers.com>, "Phil Brown" <philcycles@sbcglobal.net>
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Subject: Re: Re[4]: [CR]A BH track hub. Italian ? http://tiny.cc/LZloq
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:54:34 -0800
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Dmitry: The only reason you're beating a dead horse is that it's frozen in place up there in the cold north and you don't know it's dead yet. The original Q was on a straight thread hub could a lockring be put on and could one use a fixed cog on such a hub. No one wanted to put a lockring on the same thread size as the cog on a track hub. A track hub by definition is one thread size for cog, and a smaller thread diameter in LH for the lockring. Whether it's single or double sided is not important. Some hubs were made with both straight thread for freewheel or cluster and the other side for a fixed. Many people want to put a fixed cog on their straight sided threaded hub and if it's tightened tight enuf it will usually stay tite and not roll off, but I wouldn't take that chance, and never ride it on the track. Using brakes on a fixed road use is smart in today's traffic. We used to ride fixed in traffic years ago and had no brakes, but traffic was much less and we knew how to glove our wheel and stop very qiuckly with a little back pedaling. Many times there is enuff thread left on a straight hub if the cog thread section isn't too wide to sneak a BB lockring on. and save the expense of a new wheel. Not really to race but fixed gear training and riding around is fine. Lots of guys used to strip down their road bikes and put the fixed on that way and then several months later convert back.
Ted Ernst
Palos Verdes Estates
CA USA


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dmitry Yaitskov"
To: "Phil Brown"
Cc: "C R List"
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:18 AM
Subject: Re[4]: [CR]A BH track hub. Italian ? http://tiny.cc/LZloq



> Hi,
>
> Initially, M-gineering wrote:
>
>> I've yet to see a track pro use a lockring on a trackhub
>
> on which I commented
>
>>> (And if one wants to split hairs - it's hard to use a BB lockring
>>> on a track hub simply because the threading would be wrong ....)
>
> and to which Phil Brown replied:
>
>> Not on the cog thread. It's the same as a BSC BB lock ring. Obviously
>> the actual lock ring is LH thread.
>
> AFAIK - on a *track* hub (see the quote I replied to), the cog thread
> is just wide enough to thread the cog on. There is not much space left
> for a RH-threaded BB lock ring before the LH thread starts, and you
> can NOT thread a RH BB lockring on that, track pro or not... which was
> my point...
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Dmitry Yaitskov,
> beating a dead horse in cold Toronto,
> planning to put on studded tires on another fixie,
> that one WITH a proper track hub and lock ring...