Re: When brazed on b.b. cable guides started in Italy? Was:[CR]Unobtan ium Colnagos

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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:58:03 -0800
From: "Kurt Sperry" <haxixe@gmail.com>
To: "brianbaylis@juno.com" <brianbaylis@juno.com>
Subject: Re: When brazed on b.b. cable guides started in Italy? Was:[CR]Unobtan ium Colnagos
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Cinellis were later. What specific Italian makers were routinely fitting B/O FDs in '72 so I can look for examples? That sounds early to me.

Kurt Sperry Bellingham WA USA

2008/12/16 brianbaylis@juno.com <brianbaylis@juno.com>
> Mark,
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> >From my experience, 1972 is the appromimate date when braze on BB cable
> guides seem to become standard on high end Italian Racing bikes.
>
> Brian Baylis
> La Mesa, CA
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>
>
>
> -- FujiFish1@aol.com wrote:
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> Greg S. linked us below, to two of his beautiful early Colnagos. Aweso
> me
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> sights ... thanks Greg!
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> Looking at the 1969 Super, brings a question to mind that I keep meaning
> to
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> ask the list. This '69 top tier Italian road bike still uses a clipped-
> on
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> set of "b.b." cable guides. Was there a year that most of these big guy
> s went
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> to brazed-on top of b.b. guides, or did the change trickle in? Thanks.
> ..
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> Ciao,
> Mark Agree
> Southfield MI USA
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> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:26:08 +1100
> From: "Greg S" <gtsoftley@ozemail.com.au>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Unobtanium Colnagos
>
> Hi Crew,
> Two special Colnagos that will be of interest to anyone who has even a
>
>
> minute curiosity about this marque. There has been debate as to what a
>
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> pre 1970 Colnago should look like and the 'playing card' style is what
>
>
> has been accepted as the earliest one most are familiar with.
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> Determination to find the truth together with hard work and assistance
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> from friends, has created a correct and gorgeous 1969 Colnago Super in
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> original color with correct varnish fix decals. I am sure no other
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> example this complete and accurate exists.
> Link http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclomondo/sets/72157608849170699/
> Also of interest to many is the 1959 Colnago Freccia pista that now
>
> resides here in Australia. A sublime and historically significant work
>
>
> of craftsmanship. I have detailed and high definition pictures which
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> demonstrate the genuine patina of the last 49 years and the state of
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> preservation of this remarkable museum piece.
> Link http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclomondo/sets/72157608913018371/
> As a result of the study of these and other early Colnagos, aspects of
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> design and construction which link the early 60s, through the Molteni
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> years and into the early 70s have become apparent and I am in the
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> process of documenting this into a legible and logical form.
> Greg Softley
> Coffs Harbour
> Australia
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