Re: [CR]Real or Fake Panto?


Example: Framebuilders:Masi

Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:27:48 -0800
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Real or Fake Panto?
To: Mark Buswell <mark@sisuhome.com>
In-Reply-To: <8905C6D0-D6C4-479D-A72A-5D03B9916859@sisuhome.com>
cc: "<classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

If you mean casanova9898, he is an extremely reliable seller.  He is one of 3 or 4 European sellers I buy from frequently, and I have never had anyt hing but excellent dealings with him.  Goods as described, reasonable shi pping cost, prompt delivery.  Of course I never buy Colnago panto'ed part s, so I wouldn't know about those.

Regards,

Jerry Moos
Big Spring, Texas, USA


--- On Wed, 12/17/08, Mark Buswell wrote:


From: Mark Buswell <mark@sisuhome.com> Subject: Re: [CR]Real or Fake Panto? To: "Mark Buswell" <mark@sisuhome.com> Cc: "<classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 7:02 PM

My mistake, the seller casanova is who i was thinking of, not radmatrose.

Mark buswell Sf, ca, usa

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 17, 2008, at 12:12, Mark Buswell <mark@sisuhome.com> wrote:
> Ive thought the same thing about ebay seller "radmatrose". Something
> doesnt quite look right and he has lots of quantities. Can anyone
> confirm or deny?
>
> Mark buswell
> Sf, ca, usa
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 17, 2008, at 11:59, "accobra" <accobra@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
>> I recently bought a 1970's Colnago and I'd like to dress it up with
>> a few early panto items. The following eBay seller has a neat stem
>> but the size of the "Colnago" writing on the side is somewhat
>> larger than what I'm used to seeing for this vintage. Then I got
>> to looking at his other auctions and it seems he has an unusually
>> high number of panto items.
>>
>> Below are some links to some of his current & sold items in the
>> last month or two. There are so many and in styles I've never seen
>> that I'm concerned that the pantos have been added recently. I
>> would rather be wrong about all this because I like some of it.
>> But I don't want to pay real money for something that's been
>> recently created to look old & original.
>>
>> Here's the Colnago stem I have an interest in:
>> http://tinyurl.com/3troqz
>>
>> He had another one just like it a week or two ago:
>> http://tinyurl.com/52rdjt
>>
>> How about handlebars with this Colnago logo engraved on them?
>> http://tinyurl.com/4fkzfn
>>
>> Campy Super Record Colnago rear derailleur?
>> http://tinyurl.com/4qrcqx
>>
>> Bianchi chainring that looks like this?
>> http://tinyurl.com/4mh9et
>>
>> Colnago shift levers. He's sold several pairs of these. The flat
>> surfaces look much fresher than the rest of the shifter:
>> http://tinyurl.com/3emfoh
>>
>> Old Campy pedals with panto & newer signature?
>> http://tinyurl.com/3suw5t
>>
>> Would DeRosa do it this way?
>> http://tinyurl.com/54nl82
>>
>> More DeRosa. Pedals:
>> http://tinyurl.com/4sfprs
>>
>> Same picture, different auction for Colnago shifters. Is he
>> manufacturing these...?
>> http://tinyurl.com/4jth6k
>>
>> Another very odd style Colnago panto item. Shift levers:
>> http://tinyurl.com/3h6eup
>>
>> I've never seen a Masi seatpost look like this:
>> http://tinyurl.com/3nasuy
>>
>> There's more but you get the point. Thoughts & comments? Should I
>> bet the farm or run the other way?
>>
>> Mark Winkelman
>> Dallas, Texas USA