Re: [CR]For frame builders...Re: Helyett frame on eBay

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:26:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]For frame builders...Re: Helyett frame on eBay
To: Dale Brown <oroboyz@aol.com>, alexpianos@yahoo.fr, Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <8CABBFFCF446AE2-900-28FC@mblk-d40.sysops.aol.com>


This is a Reynolds decal I've not seen before. What does "Montants" mean in this context? One might think "stays", but later French 531 decals used "fourreaux" of "fourreaux de arrieres" to refer to stays.

Regards,

Jerry Moos Big Spring, Texas, USA

Dale Brown <oroboyz@aol.com> wrote:

Re: eBay item # 360073075777

This is an interesting frame to look and to try to analyze the construction technique...

The seat stay tops are hard to figure out exactly how they did them... At first I presumed these was a? variation on the "squish and fill" in method that some cheaper frames use.. But looking at Alex's excellent photo: http://www.reneherse.com/images/9_0294.jpg

It almost looks like it was cut, ala a "bologna slice", and then filled with brazing material as are done with the smaller (lower) ends of seat and chain stays...

The fork crown is also unusual. http://www.reneherse.com/images/9_0108.jpg

Looks to be a fairly normal twin plate crown but with a downward pointing triangular bit of metal added to the outside.. Neat!

Dale Brown Greensboro, North Carolina USA

-----Original Message----- From: alex m To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:54 am Subject: [CR]Hugonnier Routens and Helyett frames on eBay (mine)

Items 320278578344 and 360073075777

Both stunning in their way, the Helyett is of the type ridden by Anquetil, the Hugonnier Routens is super rare and an object of great beauty.

Alexander March Bordeaux France=0A=0A=0A ______________________________________________________