Re: [CR]Tillston Hellenic 1950's, photos - info?

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Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:21:38 +0100
Subject: Re: [CR]Tillston Hellenic 1950's, photos - info?
From: "Simon P-J" <>
To: kevin sayles <>, cr list <>
In-reply-to: <E4A8689765F74F7F9DE5F268A4316BC4@kevinPC>

Thanks for this, Kevin.

I'll keep my eyes peeled for J T Rodgers!

A quick Google search showed a fishing tackle shop in Leeds by the name of J T Rodgers.

Tillston's in Stockton on Tees are now a motorbike dealers. So it seems that lightweight builders live on as family businesses of a different flavour!

Wyndham Pulman-Jones Girton, Cambs., UK.

On 1/7/08 18:28, "kevin sayles" <> wrote:
> Hi Simon and listers
> By Hellenic I assume you are referring to the method of seat stays attached
> to the top tube?
> I remember when I first got into club cycling in 69, and before I became a
> frame builder at Bob Jackson's and later Woodrup, there was a couple of
> clubmates in the Featherstone road club who had frames with seat stays like
> that, and they were badged JT RODGERS.
> JT RODGERS had a shop in Featherstone and in Seacroft [Leeds] but I have no
> idea if they were built on site or if they had them made elswhere? [maybe
> Norris would know?]
> I made a 'low pro 753' with the same stays whilst I was at Woodrup's, looked
> very nice if a little different!
> and of course we all know GT revived the style many years later.
> Cheers
> Kevin Sayles
> Bridgwater Somerset UK
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Simon P-J" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:54 PM
> Subject: [CR]Tillston Hellenic 1950's, photos - info?
>> I'd be grateful for any information about this Tillston Hellenic frame
>> (serial # T75):
>> The eBay seller said that this was one of 250 Hellenic frames made in the
>> 1950's by Tillston of Stockton on Tees.
>> Through the crude paint job the lugs look nicely finished. Is this a
>> standard lug design?
>> Any clues to a more precise date for the frame?
>> How popular were Hellenic frames amongst small builders? Who made them,
>> other than Thanet and Hetchins?
>> Many thanks,
>> Wyndham Pulman-Jones
>> Girton, Cambs., UK.