Re: [CR] =?iso-8859-1?q?Pic_of_the_Day_-_1933_Crit_=E9rium_National_d?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_=27Hiver_de_Demi-Fond?=

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From: "ternst" <ternst1@cox.net>
To: Edward Albert <ealbert01@gmail.com>, <aldoross4@siscom.net>
References: <4980dc1f.47.2022.118421069@siscom.net> <c6ff64470901281437v155da5c8hde9097c1cbbe4430@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:37:03 -0800
Cc: Jan Heine <heine94@earthlink.net>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] =?iso-8859-1?q?Pic_of_the_Day_-_1933_Crit_=E9rium_National_d?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_=27Hiver_de_Demi-Fond?=


I think I see that the saddle support has a clamp around the frame. Maybe the little black oval is a St. Christopher medal? Many of the riders were aware of their mortality because of the inherent danger. The steher racing being the most obvious of high risk disciplines in cycling. Thats the only guess I have. Ted Ernst Palos Verdes Estates CA USA ----- Original Message ----- From: Edward Albert To: aldoross4@siscom.net Cc: Jan Heine ; ternst ; Dave Porter ; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [CR] Pic of the Day - 1933 Crit érium National d 'Hiver de Demi-Fond

Aldo I would say that lump might be tape that is wrapped around the base of the saddle support. Some of them had not just a round clamp put a platform that seated on the top tube so you would tape it round and round......Ted? Edward Albert Chappaqua, New York, U.S.A.

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:28 PM, aldoross4 <aldoross4@siscom.net> wrote:

What do you suppose the lump is on the top tube of the first bike, between the seat lug and the saddle prop?

http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/aldoross/pd/CNdH33.JPG.html?g2_imageV iewsIndex=1

Aldo Ross Middletown, Ohio, USA

----- Original Message Follows ----- From: Jan Heine <heine94@earthlink.net> To: ternst <ternst1@cox.net>, Dave Porter <frogeye@porterscustom.com>, 'Aldo Ross'

<aldoross4@siscom.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

Subject: Re: [CR] Pic of the Day - 1933 Critérium National

d 'Hiver de Demi-Fond

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:45:57 -0800

> >1933 Critérium National d'Hiver de Demi-Fond

> >
      >
      > >http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/aldoross/pd/CNdH33.JP
      > G.html >
      > >
      >
      > Comparing this 1933 photo with the image from the
      > mid-1950 in "The Competition Bicycle," it is
      > amazing how similar everything looks. The bikes
      > appear to be Bastides, just like they were in the
      > 1950s. (Bastide had closed his shop in 1936, but
      > stayers continued to ride old Bastides.)
      >
      > You can see the fork crown of the first and
      > second bikes clearly, and they look the same as
      > the newer Bastide bike in "The Competition
      > Bicycle." The BSA chainrings are like on the
      > older (1920s) stayer in our book, but the frames
      > are the more modern 1930s ones. The leather
      > helmets are the same, too, but the cap of the guy
      > holding up the first rider firmly puts the photo
      > in the pre-war times, doesn't it?
      >
      > Jan Heine
      > Editor
      > Bicycle Quarterly
      > 140 Lakeside Ave #C
      > Seattle WA 98122
      > http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com
      >
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