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Hello Fuji Fans!

The Fuji Ace was measured center to top...I have a 24" version, which aside from the right rear dropout cracking at the chainstay junction during a century ride in 1996, has been very reliable. I'd post some pictures of it, but, being an amateur frame builder, I have extensively modified it since that time, brazing on all sorts of things and repainting it.

Stuart Stiffey

Woodstock, NY

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Today's Topics:

1. Regina Oro vs. Regina CX freewheel (Bianca Pratorius) 2. Re: Regina Oro vs. Regina CX freewheel (Tom Forbes) 3. WTB Brooks Professional et. al. (P.C. Kohler) 4. Flashlight Holder?? (Jerome & Elizabeth Moos) 5. ranndoneur flashlight (KRISTER KATSOGIANNOS) 6. Rare Austro Daimier (Pete Kneeland) 7. Re: Rare Austro Daimier (Steve Valladolid) 8. Classic FUJI Bicycle Identification Home (Charles Nighbor) 9. Another eBay outing - Gitane (Tom Jue) 10. Re: Blog with lots of good photos (Joel Uden) 11. Re: outing - Gitane (Dale B. Phelps) 12. Advice on French Lightweights (Todd Grantham) 13. "fake" Alex Singer (alex m) 14. Re: Classic FUJI Bicycle Identification Home (Jerome & Elizabeth Moos) 15. bikes"Alex SINGER" (godart christian)

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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:17:17 -0500 From: Bianca Pratorius <biankita@comcast.net> Subject: [CR] Regina Oro vs. Regina CX freewheel To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <3d0d7bf486845e4addbd324af4432a8e@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"; format=flowed

I swapped out a Regina Ora five cog freewheel for the CX that came with the Coppi bike I just cleaned up. That peculiar off clicking sound of the old CX was offensive and plain wrong. If Reginas had three pawls and one was hanging up because of a broken spring, then it made sense that the freewheel was still perfectly functional but just sounded awful. What's the deal with the Regina line up from those years? Wasn't the Oro the top of the line and others like the America and the CX lower in quality? What was the difference in construction between the various models? I remember that Suntour used to tout better performance from their different models but as one shop owner in SF (people's bike and tool) used to say - the Suntour Perfect is perfectly good as are all the Suntours on up. It seems to me that the Reginas were all perfectly finnicky all the way up to the top of the line model I have on my Raleigh (It's loud and sounds like rattling balls on some days).

BTW I'll be posting photos of the completed Coppi soon. I rode it tonight in record cold temperatures for Florida. It was sweet and smooth and braking squeel free even with the old Campy pads that came on it. It's so cool to invigorate a piece of history on a maiden ride. I always get the feeling the bike is thanking me for being freed from its former less attentive owner. This one was never really abused but more like discarded and unappreciated.

Garth Libre in Miami Florida USA

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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:04:21 -0600 From: Tom Forbes <tfbike@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [CR] Regina Oro vs. Regina CX freewheel To: <biankita@comcast.net>, Classic Rendevous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <BAY104-W12CADB6068ED9D50BCBE78D8C00@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"

I never did much with Oro's untill lately trying to match up to older bikes . Most of my ride time from 80-90s was always on Regina CX or CX-S. One thi ng I always liked was the silent coast. Never had any issues with the inter nals, would wear out 14 and 15tooth sprockets a lot. It's pretty flat aro und here so those were the rear cogs used the most, and of course smaller diameter. I still use Phil Tenacious lube in the bodies, and knock on wo od have thousands of trouble free miles. Tom Forbes Houston, Texas.> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> From: biankita@comca st.net> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:17:17 -0500> Subject: [CR] Regina Oro vs . Regina CX freewheel> > I swapped out a Regina Ora five cog freewheel for the CX that came with > the Coppi bike I just cleaned up. That peculiar off clicking sound of > the old CX was offensive and plain wrong. If Reginas h ad three pawls > and one was hanging up because of a broken spring, then it made sense > that the freewheel was still perfectly functional but just sounded > awful. What's the deal with the Regina line up from those years? Wasn't > the Oro the top of the line and others like the America and the CX > lower in quality? What was the difference in construction between the > various models? I remember that Suntour used to tout better performance > f rom their different models but as one shop owner in SF (people's bike > and tool) used to say - the Suntour Perfect is perfectly good as are > all the Suntours on up. It seems to me that the Reginas were all > perfectly finni cky all the way up to the top of the line model I have > on my Raleigh (It' s loud and sounds like rattling balls on some days).> > BTW I'll be posting photos of the completed Coppi soon. I rode it > tonight in record cold tem peratures for Florida. It was sweet and > smooth and braking squeel free ev en with the old Campy pads that came > on it. It's so cool to invigorate a piece of history on a maiden ride. > I always get the feeling the bike is t hanking me for being freed from > its former less attentive owner. This one was never really abused but > more like discarded and unappreciated.> > Ga rth Libre in Miami Florida USA> > _________________________________________ ______> Classicrendezvous mailing list> Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> htt p://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/classicrendezvous _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_0 22009

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Message: 3 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 20:31:18 -0500 From: "P.C. Kohler" <kohl57@starpower.net> Subject: [CR] WTB Brooks Professional et. al. To: Classic Rendevous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <899FAB3C1D714F9EA418645807CC915B@peter5ca78cb10> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original

Looking for the following for a 1969-1970 Raleigh Professional project:

Brooks Professional small rivet saddle (should be good, used condition)

Campagnolo 27.2 NR seat post (again, good used condition)

Olmo Professional black plastic 'bar tape (this is the heavier patterned tape), 2 rolls OR something similar

Many thanks

Peter Kohler Washington DC USA

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Message: 4 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:28:45 -0800 From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> Subject: [CR] Flashlight Holder?? To: Classic Rendevous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, "P.C. Kohler" <kohl57@starpower.net> Message-ID: <488530.30061.qm@web82205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Anyone know of bicycle flashlight holders designed to attach a C-Cell flashlight to a rack rather than the handlebars? It looks like the classic Wald one could be adapted to rack mounting, but I think it is only for D-Cell flashlights. Most others seem to be for handlebar mounting. I have a couple of very bright CREE LED C-Cell flashlights, but I want to mount them to racks to reduce clutter on the bars. Any suggestions?

Regards,

Jerry Moos
Big Spring, Texas, USA


--- On Wed, 2/4/09, P.C. Kohler wrote:


> From: P.C. Kohler <kohl57@starpower.net>
> Subject: [CR] WTB Brooks Professional et. al.
> To: "Classic Rendevous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 7:31 PM
> Looking for the following for a 1969-1970 Raleigh
> Professional project:
>
> Brooks Professional small rivet saddle (should be good,
> used condition)
>
> Campagnolo 27.2 NR seat post (again, good used condition)
>
> Olmo Professional black plastic 'bar tape (this is the
> heavier patterned tape), 2 rolls OR something similar
>
> Many thanks
>
> Peter Kohler
> Washington DC USA
>
>
> _______________________________________________

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Message: 5 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 20:39:26 -0600 From: KRISTER KATSOGIANNOS <katten@msn.com> Subject: [CR] ranndoneur flashlight To: classicrenezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <BLU137-DS319E8DDC09F9EC08B916CC4C00@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

does anyone know where I could buy one of those oldfashon ranndoneur flashlight with long handle and a large lens .

Krister Katsogiannos San Antonio TX

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Message: 6 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 20:59:30 -0600 From: Pete Kneeland <jpknlnd@earthlink.net> Subject: [CR] Rare Austro Daimier To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <380-2200924525930926@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

Seen in Houston Craigs List

Pete Kneeland jpknlnd@earthlink.net Houston, Texas

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Message: 7 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:34:10 -0800 From: Steve Valladolid <svalladolid@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [CR] Rare Austro Daimier To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <7ae842ea0902041934l7f280855h18f9b81eda537025@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"

Too big for me or I'd definitely buy it at that price.

Steve Valladolid Who only had time for 10.5 miles today in San Diego, CA

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Pete Kneeland <jpknlnd@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Seen in Houston Craigs List
>
>
> Pete Kneeland
> jpknlnd@earthlink.net
> Houston, Texas
>
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>
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Message: 8 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:20:48 -0800 From: Charles Nighbor <cnighbor1@comcast.net> Subject: [CR] Classic FUJI Bicycle Identification Home To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Cc: onetenth@earthlink.net Message-ID: <DA7B730CC5544547A79E1767673082F4@gatewayan2blld> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Interesting web site on fuji bicycle Not seller of course nothing being sold Charles NighborWalnut creek, CA usa http://www.classicfuji.com/index.html

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Message: 9 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 01:42:03 -0800 From: Tom Jue <fyrtom@yahoo.com> Subject: [CR] Another eBay outing - Gitane To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <62411.16267.qm@web51811.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

List,

This is a very collectible yet in fine shape Anquetil-signature Gitane:

http://tinyurl.com/b8bjw3

Not related to Seller, but really appreciate the bike and its condition.

Tom M. Jue San Francisco, CA

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Message: 10 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:26:14 +0000 From: Joel Uden <general_piffle@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [CR] Blog with lots of good photos To: <msilver@iso.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <COL103-W267C4CF7123C01161595B5F6C00@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Thanks for the link, this is certainly a very interesting looking blog bu t has anyone got any ideas on online translation? My French is basic and no where near good enough to get the most from this blog. Merci beaucoup.

Joel Uden

London UK
> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:39:19 -0500
> From: MSilver@iso.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR] Blog with lots of good photos
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> http://velosvintage2.ultim-blog.com/
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> Mordecai Silver
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Message: 11 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 03:34:02 -0800 From: "Dale B. Phelps" <losgatos_dale@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [CR] outing - Gitane To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <351100.28417.qm@web38108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

--shrug--I am skeptical ... have seen that head decal before on tons of dif
ferent bikes, if that bike is late 50's (possible, I suppose) it has?had
a lot of bits swapped off of it over the years. Still, were it my size I'd
have a go at it. Any of the Gitaneusa guys wanna pipe up?
?
Dale "never forget my first...Gypsy" Phelps
Montagna lunga Colorado USA?


--- On Thu, 2/5/09, Tom Jue wrote:


This is a very collectible yet in fine shape Anquetil-signature Gitane:

http://tinyurl.com/b8bjw3 =0A=0A=0A

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Message: 12 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:16:32 -0500 From: Todd Grantham <wtgrantham@comcast.net> Subject: [CR] Advice on French Lightweights To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <95AB772CB4A44E87A954BCE7E8B4B532@workhorse> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

If you are knowledgable on the 70-80s French bikes like Peugeot or Motobecane and wouldn't mind offering me some Off List advice on a couple I am considering, shoot me an email and I will respond with the particulars...Thanks Todd Grantham Fort Wayne, Indiana USA

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Message: 13 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:29:06 +0000 From: alex m <alexpianos@yahoo.fr> Subject: [CR] "fake" Alex Singer To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <494792.30271.qm@web26601.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Jan seems to think this bike was actually sold by the Singer shop. My initi al idea was that it was a later repaint in the shop of another maker's work as I have seen once (and only once) a frame of appalling quality, but with quite nice Rene Herse paint and hand logos. There is no way the frame coul d have been produced by anyone in the shop (it had nothing Hersish about it anyway), or sold in the first place as an RH, it was the work of an carele ss amateur. The only valid hypothesis for me is a repaint asked for by a go od customer for one of his everyday bikes. The Alex Singer was comparativel y a work of art.

So I assumed the AS was the same. Are other identical bikes known of that w ould prove bikes of this type were actaully sold by Singer?

Jan knows Czuka and has inside information, so I'm sure he knows best what was really going on in the shop at the time.

If the bike was indeed sold from the shop new, then I guess we have to cons ider it as an Alex Singer bike...

There are also bikes that are rumoured to have been made by CNC or outside frame builders (70s 80s I guess) and sold under the Singer name. These bike s are actually rather nice, although the lugwork is not typical Singer, and the parts not as good (not Maxi-Car hubs, no Singer stem...). I believe th ese bikes don't have a serial number.

Were these bikes sent to Singer as frames, and he built them up, and painte d them, or was the complete bike built outide shop (to specs provided by C suka). Ie what was the actual Singer input beyond the decals?

Just trying to work out in what proportion these bikes are Singer producti on/Singer labelled/ Singer designed or whatever.

Alexander March Bordeaux France

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Message: 14 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:47:50 -0800 From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [CR] Classic FUJI Bicycle Identification Home To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, Charles Nighbor <cnighbor1@comcast.net> Cc: onetenth@earthlink.net Message-ID: <891210.97335.qm@web82208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Very useful. Note that if one is to believe the catalogs, the Ace was only available in 22 1/2" and 24" and the same was true of the Newest until 1976. That's certainly not my recollection, and seems a very strange strategy, especially for a Japanese manufacturer. Maybe they built these only for export to America and thought all Americans were tall. It doesn't say if it is ctc or ctt, but even 22 1/2 ctt seems too large to be the smallest size available. Anyone know if this is actually correct?

Regards,

Jerry Moos


--- On Wed, 2/4/09, Charles Nighbor wrote:


> From: Charles Nighbor <cnighbor1@comcast.net>
> Subject: [CR] Classic FUJI Bicycle Identification Home
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Cc: onetenth@earthlink.net
> Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 11:20 PM
> Interesting web site on fuji bicycle
> Not seller of course nothing being sold
> Charles NighborWalnut creek, CA usa
> http://www.classicfuji.com/index.html
>
> _______________________________________________

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Message: 15 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 17:04:06 +0100 From: godart christian <chris.godart@free.fr> Subject: [CR] bikes"Alex SINGER" To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <C36A11C1AB9349BC8A7DE4A7528C856C@PCdechristian> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hello, for lovers of fine French ALEX SINGER bicycle goes back to the age of the Internet: http://www.cycles-alex-singer.fr Christian godart TAVERNY Val d'Oise FRANCE

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