Re: [CR] Raleigh Pro short toptubes, and Gazelle too ..

(Example: Framebuilders:Tony Beek)

Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:08:18 +0100
From: "Freek Faro" <khun.freek@gmail.com>
To: Eric Meddaugh <eric.m@rocketmail.com>
Cc: CR discussion list <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Re: [CR] Raleigh Pro short toptubes, and Gazelle too ..


To broaden the horizon a bit, my 79 Gazelle Champion Mondial 753-frame, has a 59 c-t seattube (23 1/4 ?) and a 55,5 c-c toptube! Seems to be the same kind of geometry as the Raleigh Professional mentioned by Eric. Of course Gazelle was owned by Raleigh, that is Tube Investments at the time, so that might explain the same philosophy regarding geometry. Makes it pretty unrideable for me though ...

Freek Faro Rotterdam Netherlands

2009/2/24 Eric Meddaugh <eric.m@rocketmail.com>
> Just measured mine: 24" ctc seat tube and 22.25" ctc top tube (61cm x
> 56.5cm). That DOES seem a bit odd but having long legs and short torso it
> seems to fit my weird body pretty good. Oh well, it may be a poseur bike but
> it sure looks cool! ;>)... Anyone willing to admit they own one of these
> could you reply with year, seat tube and top tube length c-t-c measurements?
> I get the feeling Bob is right and all top tubes are gonna be the same
> length.
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> Eric Meddaugh
> San Carlos, CA
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> I briefly owned a '75 Pro that I too found to be a bit odd. Much too large
> for me (I bought it for the NR gruppo), the bike had something like a 62
> cm seat tube...But the top tube was just fine for me. In the 56 or 57cm ra
> nge!
> Matthew BowneBrooklyn, New York
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> > Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:08:21 -0800
> > From: eric.m@rocketmail.com
> > To: freitas1@pacbell.net; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > Subject: Re: [CR] Raleigh Professional
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> > Didn't the Raleigh Pro come before the Team bike? I thought the Pros (esp
> ecially the ones with the Brampton "fast back" seat cluster) were an inheri
> ted design from Carlton. Then when Raleigh killed off Carlton the Team bike
> s showed up. I've probably got it all wrong but am sure you can help me wit
> h the dates...
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> > Eric Meddaugh
> > San Carlos, CA usa
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> > From: Bob Freitas
> > To: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS
> > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:25:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CR] Raleigh Professional
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> > I am sure this has been hashed over before but my experience is that the
> smaller frame sizes had longer top tubes so the 2 I had were something like
> 21''seat tube and 22 or even 22 1/2 TT
> > also the head angles were slack so the had lots of wheel flop. The TEAM b
> ikes were the real racers and the Pro s were more Poser bikes (not to offen
> d anyone)
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> > BOB FREITAS
> > who owns a TEAM and a TWENTY but thats all in MILL VALLEY, CA USA
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